What Would You Want a New Jedi Order to Be Like?

Well I agree they need to keep the ideal of being peacekeepers. However corrupt the Republic became in the years prior to the PT and during the PT the Jedi were making moral compromises but also the Republic was faltering. At some point the wiser course of action would be take a step back and say that it was the Republic that the jedi could no longer defend in good conscience but that would have put separatists who were willing to conquer other planets for profit and use terror attacks against Senators like Padme.

I think the PT era jedi were dealt a crappy hand and a number of factors many not their fault lead to their fall.

If and only if there is a Republic worth defending should the jedi be protecting it. Now could the jedi adopt a do no harm ideology and be like the A-Team looking for hot spots and trying to bring peace to and justice. The problem with peace and justice is that its not always cut and dry. I mean in stories its easy to have a clear villain and a clear innocent in need of protecting but in reality you have competing interests and people answering wrong for wrong.

I once met a man who was a defense attorney in Canada. He said he couldn't stand it any more. He was willing go give a vigorous defense but he got sick of knowing his clients were lying to him (they were guilty) and the cops still fixed the evidence to ensure the conviction. The fact that the system had not hope of operating on the truth made him want out.

 

Like the EU New Jedi Order only less infighting, so basically marriage is allowed. It would be less monkish and mor intellectually and spiritually free then the PT jedi order.

 

Jedi are guardians of the Republic. So it is impossible to separate them from politics, completely

 

Make sure they follow the Jedi order, the one Yoda taught.

 

The knowledge of force ghosts, continuity of consciousness, is really gonna make it difficult for Luke to rebuild the order as it was. Do the Jedi take directives from the chancellor or an ascended master? If they really want to be a defenders of peace and justice, wouldn't they be better off ascending to where there is complete objectivity and "no past or future" (as Qui-Gon said)? Egos and ethics would be obsolete when aligned with the cosmic force. So, the ST and any new canon material really has to flush this out.

 

I want an academy that teaches all aspects of the force, not just the flashy fighty stuff. A great school of philosophy as well as moral fortitude and strength. I want for the Jedi to protect those who cannot protect themselves, but keep from getting too big. A progressive order based around a code of moral goodness, much like the knights of the round table, but without the....problems they had. Also for the love of The Force stop it with the "No Marriage" and "Too Old" things. Luke was too old, and Rey would be too by Yoda's standards. Not everyone realizes they're force sensitive as a child. I'm positively giddy at the prospect at a rebuilding, but I think it should be very slow.

 

Its interesting. Religions have a habit of turning precaution into prohibition. I think that was a big problem with some of the PT jedi era thinking. There were 10k Jedi. They had a system, they had things ordered and regimented they did not have to rely on the force they could rely on the system. Why meditate and be lead by the force when Jedi at the temple have done it this way for 400 years. As for rules when something goes wrong every body analyses the problem. This kid was over 5 too set in his ways and blah blah blah, well its easier if we start younger and so the system adapts to start young in the hopes of avoiding the previous disaster. Look at 20th evangelicals some of whom really jumped on the prohibition wagon. Jesus literally turned water into wine and established a sacrament which involved drinking wine and you have people trying to make a case that alcohol is wrong. They have reasons, look at the problems with alcoholism and so on so rather than expect people to handle themselves responsibly when drinking they make a new guideline to avoid the problem.

 

I was very surprised that in the PT the Jedi were a big institution- with a temple, school, library, a governing council, etc. I think that's a mistake because it can lead to rigidity, hierarchy and ultimately corruption (or at least arrogance) because it leaves certain people in control, and certain people who are not, even among the Jedi. New ideas would be squelched, there would be favoritism so that Jedi might not rise on merit alone, any response would be decided by committee which would slow it down. In other words, I think some of Anakin's criticisms were actually correct.

I like the idea of this caste of priestly knights that have served for a thousand years, but the power structure needs to be more decentralized. A big institution also makes it easier for them to go astray because the Order requires obedience, which in itself is not a bad thing as it makes one put one's self last instead of first. Unfortunately, obediency to a hierarchy means that only the leadership has to believe the wrong thing for the entire order to go in the wrong direction.

Like @LadyMusashi I also don't want them to be an arm of The New Republic, but it's hard to picture how that would work. In most functioning democracies the police and/or army and subject to civilian or political control, otherwise eventually you run the risk of having a police state or military dictatorship. Again, it might help if they are decentralized, at least then there wouldn't be the concern that they could become too powerful on a galactic level. After all, that is how Palpatine got the Republic to turn against them.

I would envision Master Jedi out among the citizens of the Republic (not isolated in a temple), training one or two padawans at a time, and perhaps having a Jedi convocation in different parts of the galaxy every couple of years to trade meditation tips, hone their Force skills, and gather intelligence.

 

No Jedi Temples for me. I like the idea of a ronin like Jedi wandering around the galaxy trying to find a place where he or she is needed. I would like them to serve outside of the political environment as well.