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What's the worst Star Wars movie?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by darth sputnik, Jan 21, 2018.

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    "The Last Jedi". I never thought I would encounter a movie I would regard to be worse than "The Force Awakens". But I did.
     
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    TMP was the worst. What effect did it have on ANY of the movies that came "after" it? ZERO. Name ANYTHING from TPM that even matters. Anything that carries any weight.

    * Qui Gon died. Who cares? Never heard of him before, never heard of him after. (Except for one line at the end of ROTS. Which also served zero purpose.)
    * Darth Maul died. Who cares? Never heard of him before, never heard of him after.
    * Midichloroians. Never heard of them before, never heard of them after.
    * Anakin's relationship with Luke & Leia's mother. Nonexistent in TMP. (Other than a little boy having a crush on a girl much older than him.)

    TMP provides no backstory whatsoever to the OT or Anakin's fall to the Dark Side. Which was the whole point of the PT. Epic fail.
     
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    It was more of a set up 4 Palpatine. MC's where mentoned in ROTS & could be the "father" of Anakin.
     
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    I stand corrected in regards to the midichlorians mention in ROTS. That being said, Anakin's "father" was another major fail of TPM.

    The PT was billed as Anakin's fall to the dark Side, not the rise of Palpatine. I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that the whole point of the PT was missing from TPM.
     
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    The whole point of the PT is simply to serve as backstory for the OT?

    If that's all you're looking for in the PT then of course it will disappoint.
     
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    Uh... Is this a trick question or something?
     
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    I'd say TPM and AOTC are kinda tied. I feel that TPM was a better movie, but was more of a standalone film than Rogue One was oddly enough. TPM at least felt more like a Star Wars movie than AOTC to me personally. Really, most of the film has become boring to me over time. AOTC felt less like a Star Wars movie and was more entertaining than TPM, but I think it was worse overall. The love story is laughable, I feel like Count Dooku should've done more, and it just has too much going on that there are plot threads and questions left unanswered (ahem Sifo-Dyas ahem).

    The acting isn't terrible for either: I do love Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Ian McDiarmind, Ray Park, Temuera Morrison, Samuel L. Jackson and Christopher Lee; it really depends on the scene when it comes to Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman's acting. The CGI has not aged well for either. There were really cool and lame parts in both, there were cringey jokes in both, there was some good and bad action in both, but overall I think they're just tied.
     
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    Nothing more hilarious than fans of the prequels saying that The Last Jedi is the worst, after excusing all the limitless stupidity, cringiness and shoddiness of those movies.
     
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    So milking a space walrus is less cringworthy then oh say "roger, roger"?
     
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    I had no problem with it. I don't know why anyone else did. I could give a million examples of prequel cringe that are infinitely worse.
     
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    Maybe because the childhood hero of many a fan was milking that thing. Some 1 like Rey or Finn should b milking it FOR Luke.
     
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    Is Luke so god-like and untouchable that he's above milking a space cow?
     
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    AOTC/ROTS.

    Both are terribles.

    Best example: All the dialogues between Padme and Anakin.
     
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    A real hero doesn't need to do herotic stuff to be seen as a hero. He was thirsty so he got himself a drink and didn't ask anyone else do get him one.
     
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    To me, it's between TPM and TLJ.

    I know a case could be made for AotC. Sure, it had quite some flaws in its execution, (especially Ani-Padme), but is otherwise interesting. And it did its best course-correct the errors of his predecessor.

    On the other hand, TPM commited cardinal sins, like :
    _ Jar Jar
    _ the prophecy and the virgin birth
    _ 9 yo Anakin, and the implications of him being "too old"
    _ midi-chlorians

    TLJ is maybe a better made film, but in my mind commited more/worse offenses (like Luke dying of a parking infraction).
     
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    Luke died because he chose to do so. It has nothing to do with being exausted after performing Force projection, just like in case of Obi-wan and his fight with Vader.
     
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    YES!
     
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    Tie between PM/AoTC (I go back and forth).

    I think PM is actually a better film than AoTC, but I usually have trouble finishing it. The Obi-Wan scenes in AoTC save it. PM has some neat visuals and intrigue going on, but the characters need more excitement/personality (and more of the actual menace.) AotC has the "romance" and CGI overload going against it.
     
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    Really? You simply can't accept someone having an opinion different than yours? You had to resort to this infantile behavior by insulting those fans who don't share your tastes in films? Jesus.
     
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    Not counting the Disney movies, which I have not seen.

    TPM is the most narratively extraneous. There is some set-up in it, but you could largely get away with not seeing it.

    However in terms of quality for a movie on its own, I would argue that AotC is the worst of them. It shares the pacing issues of TPM while also best showcasing Lucas's worst instincts. The tone is inconsistent due to the very different plotlines, the characters act foolishly and generally unrealistically, and of course the dialogue is infamously bad. The love story, while perhaps the most important part, nonetheless swallows up the rest of the story and is badly executed, making one cringe through it all.

    While I like certain SW films more than others, I can only say I genuinely dislike AotC. I'm not saying it doesn't have redeeming qualities. I like Jango and Dooku, generally love the clones, and the music is still great, but taken as a whole the film is largely a failure.
     
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