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What's Your Favorite 'Head-Canon' ?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Ruralfarmboy, May 16, 2018.

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    Leia gave birth to more children, but gave them up for adoption when Ben was still pretty young. This was the fracturing point in the Solo family. Leia had her hands full with Ben and the Senate, and felt through the force that Bad Things would happen if the children stayed. So she gave them up. This was one of the hardest things Leia ever did, but considering her own positive adoption story, she truly believed it was the right choice. Han disagreed, but he stood by his wife. Part of the reason he took Rey in was because she reminded him of one of those children (he knew they'd be around the same age, and while he didn't really believe Rey was his daughter, he was willing to keep that hope to help her out).
    Ben was too young to fully understand the reasoning, and to him it looked like his parents were giving up his siblings for no reason. This sparked a fear in the Ben (that was later stoked by Snoke) that he too could be given up...a fear that came true when his parents shipped him off to study with Luke. From that point on, Ben's reasoning to kill the past is to do so before it hurts or even kills him - it's a preemptive strike, fueled by fear.

    As for the children, they grew up happy and healthy, and are still out there. Maybe the twins are a boy and a girl named Jacen and Jaina. Maybe the twins are girls named Breha and Beru. The world may never know.
     
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    The awkward romance in Attack of the Clones is the result of Anakin and Padme not knowing what to do or say in situations like that because they both grew up extremely sheltered and had absolutely no normal childhood or adolescence.
     
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    I'm about to finish a rewatch of Revenge of the Sith, and a new headcanon idea just occurred to me:
    * Despite not being overtly Force-sensitive herself, Padme somehow formed a dyadic link with Anakin, and as he was 'reborn' as the mechanical Vader, her life-force was being 'leeched' from her
     
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    Yeah, that theory’s been around for a while. Not specifically “dyad” related, but the way those parallel sequences are structured with the themes of death/birth/rebirth. Mostly, I think folks just want there to be more relevancy to Padme’s death than broken heart syndrome.

    I’ve always liked this idea though. It’s another literalizing of the metaphor. Padme’s final words were about how there’s still good in him. If her life force (or whatever) still existed within him in some way, then that good she’s referring to could in effect be herself (sort of). Which is more or less what the character represents for Anakin to begin with. Losing her is the point at which he loses his hope and when he truly becomes Vader. But, just as the good was never driven from him fully, Padme never left him fully either. After all, ‘no one's ever really gone’.

    Reminds me of more headcanon: Padme began the Rebellion against the Empire. I know that’s something George was toying with and didn’t bother to pursue, but I love it so much. Not just because it would give the character something to actually do beyond standing around being pregnant, but that in addition to being Luke and Leia’s mother, she’d also effectively be the mother of the Rebellion – the movement her children were fighting for. There’s something so beautiful about that concept to me. Just as she represents the benevolence of Anakin reborn in their twins, she also represents the liberty of the Republic reborn in the Rebellion.
     
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    Most of the theories I've seen with regards to Padme's death have to do with Palpatine draining her life to keep Anakin alive, but my "Dyad Theory" headcanon involves Anakin himself doing it subconsciously.

    The two characters having a dyadic connection also replaces my previous headcanon that they were linked through the Force because of Padme's pregnancy, thereby creating yet another link between the three Trilogies in the Skywalker Saga.
     
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    OK. I didn’t mean it disparagingly. It’s a new twist on an old classic. I like it.
     
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    @eeprom No need for apology. I was just offering some further details about my theory.
     
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    After the events of ROTJ Luke traveled the Galaxy and became a mercenary for elder houses and had to make some uncompromising decisions for the greater good. He also fights wars and gets married but his wife dies years later. He starts a Jedi academy, with the hopes of bringing forth a new generation of Jedi. But given the wear and tear of life, his grief from his wife’s death and his own tendency to be abrasive. He is the last person who is suited to be teaching kids or at least troubled ones like Ben. And he botches it.


    Snoke mis-represented himself as a politician from some part of the galaxy and helped to resolve a political issue for Leia. Or he used his influence to get Han out of trouble. In the process he let’s both of them know he is force sensitive and has been studying it for years and is willing to teach Ben. Han and Leia are too busy with their individual lives to do any further digging. And having Snoke teach Ben would allow for Ben to stay at home instead of going to Uncle Luke. And that’s when the grooming starts.
     
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    Showing my age here but what exactly is "head-canon" ?
     
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    A term that usually boils down to a fan's personal canon for what happens. So the "canon story in my head," or "head-canon." It can range the gambit from "Obi-Wan lost his lightsaber more times than Anakin as a Padawan and is embarrassed about it," to the other extreme of "the XYZ trilogy isn't canon isn't canon and the only things that are, are the Original Trilogy and the old E.U." Or in other terms, innocuous stuff that no one will ever find out about but help flesh out the characters in the mind of the head-canon holder, to theories that may or may not have happened, to things that are radically different than what the story has said is true. The below video does a better job of explaining that term, and other fandom/fan-fic terms.




    From there, it can separate into different categories as well, such as "Fanon." "Fanon" is where a head-canon is believed by enough fans that it's become "as accepted as canon." Sometimes authors are aware of this and throw this theory into their work. An example of this is in Mass Effect. It's more or less Fanon that the male and female Shepards are twins (the backstory is up to the person who holds this view). The voice actors for both Shepards are also Canadian-born English speakers, so in Mass Effect 3 they have Shepard mention that they can go drinking in Vancouver.

    Other times, the creators have a plan, and the fan's plan doesn't line up. An example of this is the name of the Fourth Hokage in Naruto. Fans and fanfiction had penned the character as Arashi for YEARS. When his name was finally revealed, it was different.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanon

    Fan reactions to their "head-canons" being stripped away by action canon varies as well. Sometimes it's fine, other times they simply ignore the actual canon for head-canon. These head-canons vary person-to-person and are usually used as a way to enrich the story for the individual, so don't be too hard on them. (Although those who commit too much to fanon can sometimes be grating, myself included.)


     
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    Very little of this post is accurate.

    The encyclopedia and dictionary giant Merriam-Webster published an article about the term 'head canon', an article which states, in part, the following (emphasis mine):
    The article further states the following (emphasis mine):
    Headcanon, as a concept, is not an excuse for a fan to "reject a creator's reality and substitute their own', but is meant to enhance and enrich what is already established as Canon.

    For anyone interested, BTW, here is a link to the full Merriam-Webster article:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/words-were-watching-headcanon-fanon
     
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    Merriam-Webster doesn't have Thot, so clearly it's up to date on all changes of the meaning of a word and the uses, along with new words and slang.
    The problem is that there's not actual word for the rejection of canon in order for one's own stories; and due to that it falls under the umbrella of head-canon. Besides, it actually does fit the definition.

    You quote Merriam-Webster's definition:
    Headcanon generally refers to ideas held by fans of series that are not explicitly supported by sanctioned text or other media. Fans maintain the ideas in their heads, outside of the accepted canon.

    But someone saying that they don't accept the ST as canon in favor of the E.U. falls well within that boundary. It's an idea held by fans that isn't supported by sanctioned text.* It's held in their heads, outside of the accepted canon. As such, by the definition you deem as authoritative, it's a head-canon.

    Your source openly defends my point of view in its second-to-last paragraph by pointing out examples of Harry Potter head-canons that actively contradict and go against the story and says "yes, these are head-canons."

    "Headcanon refers to something that a fan imagines to be true about a character even though no information supporting that belief is spelled out in the text. Sometimes that involves filling in your own explanation for a character’s strange motivation, or projecting aspects onto a character that make them more relatable to you. If you choose to believe, for example, that the Federation vessels in Star Trek malfunction so frequently due to Federation engineers simply being overmatched by the technology; or that Dumbledore and the Weasleys are evil conspirators, then you’ve created a headcanon—essentially, a canon that exists only in your head."

    No, it originally wasn't meant for that, but it is now. Just like how "awful" didn't used to describe how terrible a situation was exclusively, words change and adapt over time. Head-canon has adapted to include the meaning "the rejection of current canon in favor of previous canon" in Star Wars and other series with complicated histories with canon material.
     
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    Here’s a great example of something from my “head canon” that I don’t think anyone has confirmed or denied:

    Palpatine, in his natural form, looks like that ugly, gross wrinkled guy with long fingernails. Mace Windu’s Force lightning did not disfigure him, but REVEAL his true identity. This is a great metaphor for the “ugliness” inside.
     
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    The last time I brought that idea up, a couple members believed it had been confirmed, but there was no specific canon source cited.
     
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    My favourite head-canon is the ST not being canon and some elements of canon integrated into the EU; Mando, Fallen Order & a few canon books could probably fit into EU timeline with a bit pushing.
     
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    See, you hit the nail on the head! That’s exactly what I mean. EVERYONE knows this to be true, but not a single person can cite an example to prove it one way or another.
     
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    I would high-key love to see a Solo family with Ben (probably under a different name though), Jacen, Jaina, Rey, and Anakin (also under a different name). Give them a science fantasy domestic comedy/action adventure series.
     
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    The Knights of Ren that Kylo was with - and later killed - in TROS were actually just acolytes. They weren't true Knights of Ren, but apprentices that Kylo was taking around to get experience. Like when Jedi Padawans studied with different Masters. ...or maybe the squires to knights would be more fitting... That's why Ben could beat them so easily. The fully-fledged Knights were doing their own thing and helping keep some of the First Order's systems in check elsewhere. Once they found out about the fall of the First/Final Order and the betrayal by their master, they went into hiding.

    Not only does this recontextualize how lame the KoR were in TROS, it gives them depth they otherwise wouldn't have, allows them to be used later on, and helps Ben's actions mirror his grandfather's actions during Order 66, but for our benefit. Also, the "it's like poetry, it rhymes" thing comes back. Once again someone with Skywalker blood betrays his allies, slaughters the acolytes/youths, and sends those who escape the massacre running and hiding in different parts of the galaxy.
     
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    Jango Fett is the best dad ever to all the clones :p
     
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