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Whedon to Direct Episode IX???

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by ChrisI, May 7, 2015.

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    God I hope its not true.

    AuO was a complete mess and he has no clue how to write dialogue, what is screenplay and proper pacing.
    Dont believe me? He said he didnt like ESB ending and if he would be directing Episove VII, he wouldnt bring old cast back.
    JJ returning back for last Episode in this trilogy would be awesome. Whedon simply doesnt have the skillset required for a movie like Star Wars.

    Capeshit fans will upvote even the worst movie in to praise.
     
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    Oh please be true. Whedon would definitely stick the landing. His writing skills are without reproach. I know many despise him, but the man is a smart and talented writer, a good actor's director, and has come along way on the visual front since his TV roots.

    @Refuss . AoU was a mess because of studio meddling. That is pretty well documented at this point. And somehow within that environment, Whedon still pulled out a pretty likable and fun movie with great character depth and well thought out themes. Much more than most popcorn cinema gets.

    And Whedon's comments actually shine pretty true in light of what was done to Ultron. Whedon wanted to tell a self contained story and was forced by the studio to lead into other projects. Which was his criticism of ESB. That it left the movie feeling as if it was only a lead in to RotJ. Which is true. You can't watch the end of ESB on its own and feel content with that being its own story. Its setting up a climax. I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing, but I understand where Whedon is coming from.
     
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    As if there wont be studio meddling in Star Wars, especially in the closing episode of trilogy.

    The guy got bullied from internet and in the past he has blamed everything but himself for Blast ups.
    Besides if Avengers and AuO is of any help to understand his cinematography skills, I especially want him nowhere close to SW.

    He has been elevated by capeshit fans in to James Cameron 2.0 but he is nowhere near that stratosphere.
    His action scenes are fun but everything else is not. And arguably Star Wars has never been about ka-booms.
     
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    First, he didn't get bullied from the internet. That was just second hand stories. Second, I don't blame him if he did. The internet is full of vile hateful people and I wouldn't want to be on it if I were a public figure either. Especially in the realm of entitled fanboys who take their media way to seriously.
    I see it quite the opposite actually. His action is ok. Its the other stuff that is great. Best scenes in Ultron, the party and the farm. Movie might have been better without any of the action pieces honestly. Its the characters and dialogue that sell his movies. The thematic undercurrents and symbolism. Unfortunately, most people just look for plot, action, and more plot in their blockbusters and miss these nuances contained within.
     
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    As soon as Whedon announced he was stepping down as MCU overseer I thought it would be to do one of the standalone Star Wars movies.

    In that aspect I think he would shine- giving him a standalone Star wars movie to tell whatever story he wants. I bet it would be a fun movie. Having to work within the constraints of the new trilogy? Not so much.
     
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    I agree. A stand alone actually makes more sense or Whedon's sensibilities. He could let loose a little more with the whimsy and humor and not be tied into someone else plot.
     
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    Judging from Firefly, he'd be perfect for a Rebels-era based standalone. Perfect.
     
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    They could theoretically rework the entire firefly series into a 2 hour movie and call it the Han solo origin movie. There isn't much that differentiates mal from Han. (Note: I want nothing to do With a solo origin movie, but this one version I could tolerate existing)

    I could also see him doing great work with with a fallen Jedi on search for redemption story ala Assaj Ventress.
     
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    do you know how shitty it would be to go from Abrams, to much better Rian Johnson, to shitty f***in, joke-and-quips-every-other-second joss whedon? give me a Maclunkey break..
     
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    I agree that Whedon should be kept away from star wars. Just as an FYI, "Besides if Avengers and AuO is of any help to understand his cinematography skills" isn't what a director does. They have a separate cinematographer for that, named Ben Davis.
     
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    Much anger I sense in you...
     
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    He's the kind of guy who would replace "I know" (Hans ESB line) with "Who doesn't, baby?"
     
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    Tired and reductive arguments that don't actually pay attention to his actual writing as much as building off the perception of criticisms of his writing. Whedon is capable of turning on a dime from jokes and fun to some of the most gut wrenching drama I've ever watched. Its fair to not like his style. But such venom and rage that comes with Whedon haters always shocks me.
     
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    First I love Joss Whedon, he already sounds like a GFFA character Joss Whedon.

    2- Um Firefly! I mean all of the Han Solo that should have been in the Prequels went into Firefly.

    3- What Age of Ultron did people who hated it see. It was a great. I loved the dialogue. The action was great the changes to the characters made sense. I loved the Willow/Hulk romance.

    4- I still cry out in prayer that he was not picked to do the whole ST. That said I do think if he is not doing the whole trilogy it might be a big change in gears. I would prefer him for an Anthology film or the whole thing.

    5- Fioni owes Whedon money for Rebels . . . its more like Firefly than Titan A. E. (Whedon's other sci fi story).
     
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    Adding some fuel to the fire.
     
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    God nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
     
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    I wouldn't mind it. Near far as I can tell, the man can both direct and write well.
     
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    I suppose I'm not really adding anything new to the discussion that hasn't already been said, but I've been thinking a lot about this today and feel compelled to get off my chest what some of you are already saying: Please, Lucasfilm! Please keep Whedon away from the main Star Wars films! The man is without a doubt capable of a creative tour de force (no pun intended), and I really loved "Age of Ultron"; but he is the wrong pick for a Star Wars episode.

    His witty dialogue is smart and hilarious, but Star Wars isn't supposed to be hilarious. His action scenes are passable, but also a bit bland and generic. His plotting has become somewhat predictable, and the novelty of "shockingly" killing off a well-liked (but ultimately under-developed) character is wearing a bit thin for modern audiences.

    If you must let Whedon play in the Star Wars sandbox, I'd prefer to see him take a stab at the Prequel Era in one of the Anthology films. His visual style is not too dissimilar from those movies, and his snappy dialogue combined with adequate action and a plot featuring mostly new (and thus undeveloped) characters might go a long way towards redeeming the Prequel Era as a whole in the minds of many moviegoers.

    Just my two cents...
     
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    I don't want Whedon anywhere near this after hearing of his attitude throughout Age of Ultron
     
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