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When Did a Character Become Cool to You?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Use the Falchion, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

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    Some characters we like and think are cool from the minute we meet them. Others take time. Why don't we explore the latter category - when did a character become cool to you?


    I'll start with two examples. First is fan favorite Obi-Wan Kenobi. Like a lot of fans, I grew up on the OT, so I grew up with knowing the Jedi Master. But I never thought he was super cool. He died early on in ANH, offered vague advice during ESB (although he DID help sell Luke's potential to Yoda), and tried to cover up his lie in ROTJ.

    As a Jedi, he was overshadowed by Yoda; as an older figure to look up to, he was overshadowed by Han; and as a paternal figure he was overshadowed by Vader.

    But then the PT came out. We saw Obi-Wan's relationship with his own master and the Jedi in their twilight time. We saw his relationship with Anakin at its beginning and its end. We saw the snark he subtly used in the OT wielded with near reckless abandon. He became cool to me.

    And then I watched The Clone Wars and Kenobi just went Next Level Cool.

    Another one - which again might be blasphemous - is Leia.

    Much like I said above, I knew Leia growing up. But when the ST came out, I got to see Leia like I never saw her before - a woman who by all rights should have given up from the fight after giving so much, or at least walked away and let someone else take her place. But she did neither. She, despite losing nearly everything, never, EVER gave up hope. And that message was so powerful for me in TLJ. I think it's become even more powerful after Carrie's passing.

    In defense of OT Leia, I will say that after re-watching ANH and ESB within the past six months, my appreciation for OT Leia has certainly grown.


    And as a bonus, one character that didn't need to win me over/become cool: Padme Amidala.

    Padme was a great character for me since the beginning. The queen in plain sight, the diplomat that stood her own against Jedi, droids, and Geonosians.

    Anyways, that's it from me. When did a character become cool to you?
     
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    For me the character of Qui-Gon Jinn would be such an example. At first he was a boring looking and a non-stop talking Jedi to me. But this changed through time. Especially when I started to work on a screen play for an Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon movie. During this period I did a lot of research on Qui-Gon (non-canon and canon) and realized this character is pretty cool.
     
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    cawatrooper Dungeon Master

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    I grew up watching the original trilogy and prequels, and I always liked Luke. But it wasn't until getting back into Star Wars that I realized that I kinda disliked him in ANH and Empire- however, on rewatching ROTJ, I was hooked from the first frame he stepped on screen.
    And that's cool, by the way. It shows that even if I wasn't a huge fan of whiny farmboy Luke, he truly grew as a character.

    For another, I'll say Ahsoka. I used to hate her. Probably because I originally stopped watching The Clone Wars during the show's second season (She admittedly gets much better as time goes on). When she first appeared in Rebels, though, I was totally sold.

    Finally, and this is probably heresy, but Vader. Again, I grew up with the prequels as well, so Anakin and Vader have always been pretty synonymous to me. He'd always been a fine villain, but I wasn't crazy about him. It wasn't until I heard the breathing in the infamous hallway scene of Rogue One that I realized how cool Vader is as a villain, and I appreciate him across the board now.
     
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    Fernus Rebelscum

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    Palpatine, I think. He was lame on the OT. I mean, not awful, but he looked like a cliche. Some kind of a mad scientist.
    In the prequels he becomes one of the best villains in the history of cinema. Suddenly he's that cunning brilliant tactician who fooled both his allies and foes. His plan is the perfection, and his cockiness and ability to serve his revenge cold deserve respect. I mean Anakin is cool and all, but NOBODY expected that Palpatine.

    To make a good hero is not hard. It's all in the book. But villain? I can't remember the last good villain on the screen.

    In terms of villains, Lucas was simply brilliant. Maul, Palpatine, Grievous, hell, even Dooku. So cool.
     
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    cawatrooper Dungeon Master

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    Ooh, that's another one.

    I never really appreciated Dooku until recently and hearing his monologue to the captured Obi Wan. I think it's awesome that he truly saw himself as a force of good for the galaxy, rather than working out of a more obvious selfishness. And the interesting thing is, considering the corruption in the Republic and the way the Jedi Order had gone astray, he was almost right. It's really not hard to see how Dooku could be considered a hero.
     
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    Hey, same here.

    But what I love about him (not mentioning the brilliant actor, of course) is that he's not your typical villain. The prequels are rich in that aspect. Maul is a grunt, albeit a cool-looking one. Palpatine is a plotter, wishing for a revenge, and Grievous is just a victim with nowhere to go. But Dooku is not eevvvil. He thinks he's doing the right thing. Ans he sees the truth. His ways are radical, but in his eyes, he does good things. That makes a great character. Wish there was more of him in the EU and movies.
     
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