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When did Leia show more grief?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PrincessLeiaCB3, Jan 25, 2016.

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When did Leia show more grief?

  1. ANH - When Alderaan was destroyed

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  2. ESB - When Han was frozen in carbonite

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  3. ROTJ - After finding out Luke is her brother and Vader her father

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  4. TFA - When Han's dead

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  1. FN-3263827

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    hahaha ~ i knew you'd appreciate that. the artists on tumblr turn this stuff out like crazy. some of it is really cool. some...very...different (ha!).

    it's a weird weird world.

    fulla feels.
     
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    I know. And it does not help that I was listening this song by Sia named "One Million Bullets" from her new album. Feels, feels everywhere!
     
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    i had to look up the song. jeez it is an interesting score for that, isn't it?

    maybe we need an anthem thread ~ hahaha
     
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    I can understand why you may find it hard not to judge Leia for her visual emotial reaction to Alderan in particular, but I find it somewhat irksome. And I realise that SW is fiction, but I will relate my own experiences for what it's worth in furthering potential understanding of the character. I have experienced a terrifying, large scale event that has caused wide spread death and destruction within the community in which I live and I saw many reactions. When you stare destruction and death in the face like that, its almost impossible not to regard it with anything besides 'shock and awe'. I witnessed this to be almost universal across the community, and not just peculuar to my iwn unique outlook. The scale and terror invites denial, and it's almost impossible for the human brain to process. And then there is the realisation that immediate action is required to prevent further catastrophe and death, so you get down to the task at hand, compartmentalising the emotions that may lead to an inability to act. I also think the longer you are required to act under that sort of durress, the harder it is to bring those emotions to the surface in ways that are recognized by others for what they are. It's only in the quiet times afterwards, often in the dark of night when dark dreams paralyze your soul, that you even begin to realise how something like that is processed, and how much it has affected you. So, don't be too hard on ol' Leia for what you see as a lack of emotional depth.
     
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    I think the whole discussion about lacks of showing emotions shows that there is still a long way to go for our society when it comes to female heroine.

    A tough man without showing any reaction facing terrible losses .. great, tough women with strong character.. has to cry out loud..

    ST, thanks for helping us to jump over useless old cliches.

    Strong Leia, resistance would be nowhere without you.

    Even stronger Rey. Thanks to you it will need no push from anybody or anything (bloodline, mentor figures) to make you the strongest weapon of the light side of the force all-time.
    My daughter is happy to see role models beside Cinderella.

    I am a man but I hope I will see a female us president soon (even if I'm not American).

    Could only become a much more interesting world with tons' of strong women in powerful roles.
     
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    As Kylo Ren would say, 'So true'.

    I never really thought much about that aspect before. I guess I'm lucky in that in that I come from a country that has a lot going for it in terms of gender equality than some places, even if there's a way to go. We've had a great female PM, there are many examples of female heroines in our art, females are encouraged in pretty much all areas. Gender has never really been an issue of consideration in most of my life experience, so I rarely even think of it from that point of view. But now that you point it out...
     
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    I know!! Especially the part where it says:

    " I got a feeling, I got a feeling
    Danger is coming, a danger is coming
    A danger is coming,
    Oh oh oh
    I got a feeling, I got a feeling
    The war has been won here, the war has been won here
    Ohhhhh

    Under the moonlight, under your moonlit gaze
    I know that I'd take one million bullets babe
    Yeah, one million bullets could come my way
    But I want you to know that I'd take a million babe"

    It makes me think of this:

    image.jpg
     
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    I wish I was part of the hug...I love that scene in ROTJ where they embrace for a bit there. It makes you think that even though the Empire may be defeated but the job is not over yet. While things might have been peaceful for a time and it seemed that way but there will always be something that will interrupt the times of peace and recovery of a war that has long been fought. There may have been good times until s*** hit the fan when your son becomes the very thing you swore to destroy. I can imagine the heartbreak it was for both Leia and Han that eventually led them to walk down separate paths.
     
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    the last time i watched the movie, it struck me how Han recognizes his son in his KOR getup. is this the first time he's seen him in it?
    or does he know what he looks like because somewhere in the Resistance database is a mugshot holovid of Kylo Ren (wanted dead or alive).

    Leia has undoubtedly seen it too. Does the Resistance know that's her son? Does she have to listen to people talk water cooler crap about stringing him up?

    why does Leia's plight get more heart-breaking the more you think about it?
     
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    All of them are quite valid questions. To make it even more heart-breaking for our heroes.

    Here, another one right in the feels:

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    reasons why Kylo Ren wears a mask:
    • homage to grampa
    • cool n scary
    • protection in battle
    • nobody can see him crying all the bloody time
    "you think i want to forget him? i want him back!" ~ poor Leia. what did she ever do to deserve this?

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    I know!!! There you go, another one for the feels.

    iloveyouiknowROTJTFA.png
     
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    Wow...these last few posts have made me teary eyed . Plus it could be the song I'm listening to called Understanding by Evanescence. Great song and it makes me think about kylo/Ben, Rey, leia and Han.
     
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    just a little something to get the morning cry on?

    when i see Leia and Han like that ~ and he's so much taller than her; and then i think of her son (who's almost half a foot taller than his father).
    she's so tiny!

    and yet she's the one with all the fortitude.
    and the only skywalker who inherited any mental stability, apparently.
     
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    So very very very true.
     
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    Same here. It does not help either that I am listening to the ESB soundtrack and right now it is playing "Han Solo and the Princess" lol.
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    Agree.
     
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    Have you listened to the song i mentioned in my post? It's really good if you listen to the lyrics they are so spot on in relation to Ben, Rey, Leia and Han.
     
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    Spot on. Just listened to the song. Agree with what @FN-3263827 said on another post, we should do a thread with anthems for these two lol.

    The one I have been listening earlier is Sia "One Million Bullets". It is also spot on for Han and Leia. ;(
     
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    Yes.. she is the strongest skywalker of all from the psychological point of view.. although she would have all rights to be completly down if you consider all her losts.. Brings me to the point that Luke should put his last nerves together as fast as possible and hurry on to help his sister; he already should have very good reasons for hesitating that long without fighting on her side again.
     
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    yeah, people talk about redemption arcs for Kylo Ren, but i think Luke might have some atoning to do for himself. i mean, we have so little information at this point, but it does feel like he's sort of bugged out on the universe for these past years and that's not really okay when he's the last of the Jedi.

    not that i don't empathize with him. he has an enormous burden and everyone has their breaking point.
    but yeah: Leia is still at her station despite terrible losses dating all the way back to the destruction of Alderaan.
     
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