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SPECULATION When is the trigger for a fourth trilogy announcement?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MarsPhoenix, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Metaphysics

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    Disney won't take a break after Episode IX, but that doesn't mean they immediately have to start pumping out the next trilogy.

    5 - 7 years of Anthology films could serve as our "break", and there are many stories to be told not involving Skywalkers, e.g. an Old Republic saga, more Han Solo movies (why sign Alden to only one film?), an Obi-wan film, a couple TV series, etc.

    Then, after our "break", we'll inevitably return to the characters of the ST to pick up where it left off.
     
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  2. Julius Fett

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    Oh, for sure, I see them doing two films per year eventually (after Marvel and the MCU has cooled down a bit after Avengers 4 and Phase 4 starts, probably, so likely after the end of the current SW slate), but that's not at all what I'm arguing.

    I'm arguing that the gap between the end of one trilogy and the start of another is what helps to drive audience anticipation for the film, which results in a better box office performance for the film, as well as allowing fans to fully enjoy and explore these films. Sure, the MCU releases multiple films per year - which again, a model SW will undoubtedly adopt at some point - but, as Spielberg himself points out (and surprise surprise, I agree with him) the superhero movie is a phase in the same way that Westerns were back in the day, which is why we see so many companies attempting to rush out films to profit on Marvel's success of shared superhero movie universes without forming a concrete plan beforehand (looking at you, WB and DC).

    The big difference between Star Wars and almost everything else is that it's a timeless entity, and I'm sure Disney knows this. Unlike the MCU, this franchise has been standing proud for 40 years now, giving it a huge audience and a large nostalgia base.
     
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    I'd like to get a non-saga old republic trilogy, with spin-off still in intervening years. I like that the main trilogies are generational affairs.

    I think we'll find out at celebration. There is no 2018 celebration and 2019 seems to late to announce a 2020 film. We will at the very least find out what the 2019 movie will be.
     
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    if episode 8 breaks the bank and sets records, you will hear "rumors" begin swirling about episode X.
    Purposeful rumors from Disney and LFL to gauge the interest and what people want.

    If they are positive I'd give it 1 year from the release of 9 that they have begun planning episode X and will start casting and such.
     
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    I think they will do a bunch of spin offs
     
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    As long as demand & momentum continues there will definitely be a 4th Skywalker saga trilogy and probably more. However like many others I do expect a significant gap between Episode 9 & Episode 10. A decade at least.

    What is interesting is what happens in the gap. I imagine stand alone films are here to stay and there will probably be a live action TV series but I wonder if they will start looking at an alternative trilogy. My gut feeling is something loosely based on "Knights of the Old Republic" and/or something exploring the history of the Jedi / Sith.

    They could always use the time to remake Episodes I to 3 .....that was a joke ;)






     
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    1. Already been confirmed ;)

    2. If one of them is a Skywalker than DEF .

    3. It will be announced at the celebration in 2019
     
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    I'm afraid that disney destroy Star Wars(obi-wan 4)
     
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  9. Julius Fett

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    I agree wholeheartedly: some serious galaxy-building could be pulled off here if they give it the time required.

    My own two cents is that we will get a set of Old Republic era films - a core trilogy and perhaps a few spin-off films, all playing into eachother in a unique way (for example, an abandoned temple in one of the trilogy films could be fleshed out and fully utilised in an anthology film, or vice versa) - as well as a bunch of books, video games and perhaps even an animated series (if they don't use spin-off movies and only have a set trilogy based on, say, Revan, then this series could jump around in terms of time and place similar to TCW, filling in a lot of gaps, and ending, perhaps, with Darth Bane announcing the rule of two).

    I mean, forget how much the fans would love this for a moment and just acknowledge that given 5/6 years given (almost) entirely to the Old Republic era to jumpstart it, you're probably looking at $3/5 billion grossed from a trilogy of such nature and, furthermore, a LOT of money from merchandising (as always).

    The Old Republic era certainly seems to make the most sense to come next, in my opinion.
     
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    This is a great point. No 2018 Celebration. There has to be some reveal into the not-so-distant future at this year's Celebration. At the very least the 3rd stand-alone.

    As for a future trilogy, I think for practical reasons they let the cast have a break for at least a little while before brining them all back to do it again. I'm very curious about the state of the galaxy by the end of Episode IX. I have a feeling that it won't be like ROTJ with all the fireworks and Ewok songs.
     
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    I'm fairly confident this will not be happening any time soon. They'll build off the characters that have already been created. We're a long way from Disney green lighting a risk like that.
     
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    I think you are right.
    If Rey, Poe, Finn... Kylo?!? Becomes as popular as Luke, Leia, Han & Vader were in the 80s... I would be surprised if Disney & Lucasfilm just put a lid on their stories like that.
     
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    We will get Old Republic....anthology films.

    We will very unlikely get a full trilogy. Unless one is absolutely masterful. *cough*giveittoBayona*cough*

    Disney won't have to wait 10+ years for a new trilogy especially if 8 and 9 are home runs.
     
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    1) yes
    2) I think Rey will be involved if KK is still head if LFL (I stand by my "Rey is KK's MaREY Sue" position---not trolling. Just explaining).
    3) there's a chance but I think they wait for E9 to come out. I honestly think they'll take a 3-6 year break and release anthology films before coming back to Skywalker stories, but if Luke survives E9 they might start another trilogy sooner, just so they can include Hamill again before his age becomes an issue
     
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    ...turns to acknowledge Guardians of the Galaxy merchandise, posters and film on my shelf...

    I mean, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree with you, but I have to admit that many of your "counter arguments" to my points thus far, and I mean this with utmost respect towards you as a fellow Star Wars fan, have been almost entirely baseless to this point. Sure, I voiced an opinion, but I've followed it all up with some rather solid facts and figures and a number of key points I'm sure many fellow fans here can see and acknowledge the logic in.

    Of course I acknowledge that there's a risk in making an Old Republic anything at this point, but Star Wars is a film and cinema is an art form: every piece of art requires risk to be taken for anything artistic to actually be understood from it.

    Also, let's not underestimate just how big a risk the GOTG movie was for Disney financially: even some of the most hardcore Marvel fans I know had never heard of them before the film was announced, and no-one thought that it would be a success in any definition of the term, and yet here we are, 6 weeks away from a film widely touted to pass the $1 billion mark. The Old Republic era - and moreover, Star Wars - has already amassed a massive audience, and I'm sure that there are many stories to still be told.

    And sure, they'll build off the characters they've already created (I mean, I don't exactly think we're seeing Rey, Poe or Finn in a spin-off film at any point in the near future) but they'll also build on the galaxy and it's story and history at large. These characters will be built upon: in the sequel trilogy.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 20, 2017 ---
    I don't think anyone here was suggesting that LFL put a lid on anything by having a gap between the ST and XT, thus giving the ST time to breathe and stand on its own, and allowing for the development and release of other films, as well as building anticipation for the XT.
     
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    My one theory has been that Rey is not related to anyone and they will do another Trilogy regarding her lineage.

    Episode 1-6 is about the Skywalkers

    Episode 7-12 is about Rey's family.

    In saying all of this, Episodes 10-12 would not be announced til after Episode 9.
     
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    It has? Can you give a link? I didn't think anything past episode 9 was announced.


    While I want an old republic trilogy and for them to give us a decade between saga films, I kinda agree they are less likely to give us old republic films while the old republic MMO is still ongoing.
     
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    Probably a good idea to agree to disagree. Also worth pointing out that Guardians of the Galaxy isn't taking playing thousands of years in the past and those characters can tie into/work with the current Marvel Universe.

    Without time travel the Old Republic doesn't really connect with the larger story in the episodes.
     
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    1. Yes, eventually.
    2. I'm not sure. While logic would dictate doing another 30 or so years jump into old versions of Rey, etc. there's also the possibility they make a much bigger jump (say, 200 years) so that a 4th trilogy really starts with a blank slate. It would be a way for it to really feel new after the sequel trilogy. I think this is what I would bet on.
    3. Nope. Too soon.
     
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    Sure, apart from the overarching themes of good vs bad, the Jedi vs Sith, the rise and fall heroes and villains, being set in the same galaxy and all of that, that's nothing that a trailer/opening crawl could ever expand upon and explain with "3000 years ago"? The Rule of Two, the Prophecy of the Chosen One, and so on and so forth? There are dozens if not hundreds of ways for it to be tied in, and heck, why does it even need to tie in: are you one of those fans that think that everything needs to be connected to our core cast of the Skywalkers in the PT/OT/ST, or do you want to see something completely new and original, regardless of its position in the timeline? I mean, I know what I'd like to see, and I'm sure many of the fans on here agree with me.

    also, I think your point about where GOTG takes place in the timeline is a moot point to make in comparison, as it isn't the fact that "oh, they're set in the same universe!" that makes that film fit so well into the MCU - and likewise for RO and other non-episodic Star Wars content - as that's down mostly to common themes, tone and storytelling tropes.
     
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