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SPECULATION When is the trigger for a fourth trilogy announcement?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MarsPhoenix, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Pomojema

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    It can be... If it's one big production. The thing is that Star Wars just doesn't roll that way. The only time they could have done that was with the PT, and since George Lucas was making things up as he went along, he decided against that.
     
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    EPIX will finish up production early 2019. Say if they plan on a May 2027 release for X although it means an 8 year gap for us it's more like a 5 year gap for Disney. I'm sure the earliest drafts will be around 2024/25.

    Once again 2027 is 2 perfect for passing up the 50th anniversary of the Saga.
     
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    I don't think that's entirely true.

    Regarding the issue of a fourth trilogy, when the fateful annoucement was made that Lucasfilm had been sold to Disney, they were already talking about a fourth trilogy and a standalone film every year, in addition to the so-called sequel trilogy. I thought then - as I do now - that this was a worrying declaration to make. I honestly don't believe the level of quality can be maintained and even though box office figures may remain healthy, I won't be sitting in the audience for these films.

    I'm sure I'll see this current trilogy out until the end and that will probably be the point at which I sign off from Star Wars for good. I'm much more excited about War For The Planet of The Apes, to be honest.
     
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    I don't think Disney will be good for Star Wars in the long run. The series hit its height quality wise with TCW which Disney cast aside without a second thought and replaced with a watered down cheap replacement. Rebels has had its moments but they were mostly because of returning TCW characters. Apart from Rogue One everything SW related to come out of Disney has been poor and I believe they will just keep pumping out mediocre products until the franchise has been milked dry. Cancelling TCW, 1313, what they have done with Rebels, and recasting Han Solo for the young Han Solo chronicles, are all signs that Disney don't give a damn about the franchise other than as a cash cow to be abused.

    Sure it is great that we are getting some new films now but we would of gotten them eventually anyway, and a completed TCW story. I am hopeful for episode VIII but VII was not a worthy start to a new trilogy once all the hype died down. Not that it didn't have its good points either. Disney worked out great for the MCU but that got its start before the Disney takeover and the same guys are still in charge which is not the case with SW. I am more than happy to be proven wrong of course.
     
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    You read my mind. I hope I'm proven rong 2 friend.
     
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    IMHO, there are too many good movie directors that are Star Wars fans to mention at this point that the franchise got milked yet. I mean... there are so many stories you can tell, Old Republic, Obi Wan, Jabba The Hutt, Darth Plagueis,...they can go a long way and for decades to come. Of course we will have bad Star Wars movies... I am not THAT excited about the Han Solo Anthology film... but Rogue One proved me wrong last time...
     
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    yeah. you're right.
    they just churn out billion dollar properties with it. but it's bad for Star Wars.
    They got Harrison Ford who was done with SW back. But that's actually lowkey bad for Star Wars.

    Star Wars is more accessible than ever before. But that's bad too.

    We are getting the visions of Star Wars from many different minds, some of the best in the business. But that's even worse.

    Sorry. Im done. But this is a blast post. I rarely call it out like that, but it should be.

    And before accusing Disney of using it as a cash cow, George Maclunkey Lucas was using it as one from the start. He was incredibly shrewd as a businessman to get every damn penny he could so don't act like Disney is evil for it.

    + How did they cast TCW aside? They kept it in canon. They could have made it legends with everything else but kept it canon. Love or hate Rebels, they kept it very on pace with TCW and allowed most of the creative team to keep it going.

    Good god this is just just worse by the minute.
     
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    Don't get me wrong: $4 billion is a LOT of money. But I'll be damned if George couldn't have got more money out of Disney for the franchise.

    Making TCW Legends would have been a poor move in every way: LFL, regardless of their love for SW, would, and rightly so, have been up in arms if a show they worked on for so long - and with such an investment - went down that way; Disney, of course, knew that keeping TCW was good will for the fans, saved from touching the prequels for as long as they liked AND benefitted them financially.
     
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    In theory yes. Which is why it was 2 billion cash and 2 billion in STOCK. So George is getting wayyyy more than 4 billion when all is said and done. And don't forget his infamous toy deal. Dude knew exactly how much it was worth and got every cent.

    I agree. And it shows the exact opposite of the post I quoted. Disney could have just said, "Nah bruh" to Filoni and crew and moved on with their own stuff. They had the money and studios equipped to do it. But TCW fit neatly in the PT/OT timeline (unlike a lot of EU stuff tbh) and it allows them to keep expanding and telling their own stories.

    I think a lot of the resentment is over EU becoming Legends and not canon. Which I get a little bit but needed to happen if you ever wanted to see more stories and new movies.
     
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    Good points here.

    Since Disney acquired Star Wars, we had:

    The Force Awakens
    Rebels
    Rogue One

    In my opinion, this is Quality Star Wars.

    I still think The Force Awakens is one of the best Star Wars episodes we had so far, and I have never been so excited by a Star Wars Episode than 8.
    Rebels... I never missed an episode... and it keeps getting better and better... never a cheap episode...
    Rogue One surprised me in every way possible. It paid homage to A New Hope and made it even better.

    Until now, Disney is respecting the franchise, cherish it even opening a thematic park in 2019.

    AND, I am astonished, day after day, discovering the amount of new Star Wars fans, of all ages, genders... not only fans but Hardcore fans... teenagers, people in their early twenties... kids, pre-schoolers... Star Wars is alive and not yet under a setting sun, not for a while.

    That is why I speculated that maybe we would have an announcement this year for a Kenobi Spin-Off in 2020 and Episode X in 2021... since there is no Star Wars Celebration next year.

    Or maybe they will wait and announce it when opening the Theme Park in 2019 and keep it a secret until then.
     
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    Well i heard that at 1st Disney DID NOT want TCW canon.
     
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    If we get the FT in 2026 or later guess what that means?

    7 decades, yes 7 decades of episodic SW movies!

    1 in the 70s, 2 in the 80s, 1 in the 90s, 2 in the 00s & now 3 ( first time in 1 decade ) in the teens.

    If the mouse sticks to the 2 year gap between saga films, with episode X at least in 2026, it means at least one Saga movie in 7 diffrent decades!
     
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    But it is. Otherwise it's crying over spilled milk.
    I don't blame them if they didn't. they just dropped 4 billion on a property, I would want to make it my own too.
     
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    It doesn't make any sense to me that they wouldn't want to make it canon. The series gave Star Wars the biggest boost it ever got since they stopped making the movies, and they'd be foolish not to make the most of it. Especially since you're dealing with a property that banks on nostalgia. Peppering that throughout the Season 1 finale - along with all of Seasons 2, 3, and 4 - is the smartest decision that they ever made with Rebels.
     
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    Not only TFA, RO and Rebels, they have also given us a more than decent run of comics (with Lando being outstanding) and several good books too. However, I think it might be good to wait a few years with Episode X (five to seven years).
     
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    While it's clear from the cartoons that Disney produces that TCW was just too strong for them in terms of some of the content, it's quite amusing that they didn't "want" it as canon. You may as well say you don't want the sun to rise in the morning. TCW is canon and has been declared as such by the only person who matters when it comes to all things Star Wars (well until he sold it, but that's academic since TCW was made under his stewardship). I may as well spit my dummy out and say I don't "want" Rogue One as canon, since I have no interest in the spin-off films.
     
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    And I've heard that Disney wanted to continue TCW but Lucasfilm executives decided to halt the series. That's the funny thing in rumours - you have no idea who's right.
     
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    I certainly don't disagree. Just saying I'd GET it that Disney wanted to make their own canon if that were the truth.
    But even then it's just a rumor and one that could easily been made to give people a reason to hate Disney owned Star Wars
     
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    Im not against TCW. I was just bringing up the source that when negotiating with GL, Disney only wanted to recognize the films as canon. They wanted to put TCW in the Legends dumpster. TCW haves alot of canon baggage. For instance it made Bain canon which forces Disney to recognize him & not come up with there own creation. It also made most Mandalorians as pacifist wimps.

    I was just being informative. A few posts above shows that i was unaware of a rumor of Disney wanting to CONTINUE Clone Wars. Everything i heard about the deal was....

    1. Disney wanted it killed.

    And....

    2. Disney wanted it in Legends.
     
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    EHHHHN! Wrong-o, old chap.

    Darth Bane was always canon. He was in the lore of TPM, which even if it wasn't stated was a part of the series backstory.

    So whomever told you this is likely talking out of their keister-hole. Disregard it!
     
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