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SPOILER Where are the plot holes?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by DailyPlunge, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. YO-YO-YODA

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    Yes it is visible in this picture, it is faint black in color. It seems the wound is cauterized.
    Apparently some medical droids were treating his wounds prior to this scene.
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    Chewie's bow caster blast struck him on the lower left side of his torso.
    It's consistent from above picture.
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    LOL.
    Kylo Ren's shirtless scene will be deeply imprinted in Star Wars lore.
    Who knows in upcoming trilogies it might become a Star Wars rhyme to have a shirtless scene just like some losing their limbs in a light sabre duel.
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    The wound is still there. If you observe very carefully there is a faint black spot on the lower left of his torso just above his waist pants. It seems the wound is cauterized.
     
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  2. eeprom

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    Hmm, just looks like a shadow to me. But as long as others can see it, that's good enough for me :)
     
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    the wound is there.
    it's hard to see in low-res shots like the one above.
    but it's also mostly covered by the pants as well.
     
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    Even if it wasn't. Rian moved the face wound. Why not that one too?
     
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  5. Odourless

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    That actually suited the situation. Poe mocking Kylo was more a defiant act. On the Raddus after Poe has lead a disastrous attack on the dreadnought that has cost countless lives, it feels jarring and completely detracts from the seriousness of the resistance s plight
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    I didn't want Luke's character to remain static. I can get the whole concept that he's broken by past events. But not this completely defeated old man, who's neutrality makes him worse then the villains. And his arc is retarded for a single film. Its copy paste ×3 from the original. But instead of a dough eyed country boy to zen master, we get a broken man to zen master.

    As for originality, hasn't any one noticed the key moments of this film is just a mish mash of the original trilogy? And in between we get padded nonsense
     
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  6. cawatrooper

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    But that's not even accurate. The mocking scene takes place before the attack.

    If anything, it highlights Poe's arrogance right before he pays the price.
     
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    Sorry must have muffed the timeline. Still the humour in this movie is so badly timed and misused
     
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  8. cawatrooper

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    I mean, can you really say it's badly timed when you can't even remember when it happened? :p
     
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    I remember it enough to know it was bad lol. Tell me, I'm curious, what's your view on Mary Poppins Leia then?
     
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    Well, I'm afraid I have no idea how those two things are related, but I guess I can say that I didn't mind it much.

    Leia is, and always has been Force sensitive. Seeing an aged character do any sort of big-ish action scene is always going to be jarring (see Palpatine's fight scenes in ROTS) and it's no different with Carrie, amazing as she was.

    So, I guess my opinion is: it wasn't a perfect scene, but it apparently has become a lightening rod for nitpicking when the subject needs to desperately be changed.
     
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    They're related because everyone in the cinema found that to be the biggest joke. I'm serious , that one scene got biggest laugh from the audience. Luke messing with Rey about the force came in second. Everything else fell dead flat with the audience. That's how bad the humour was
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    So if a "dramatic and serious" scene in your movie gets more laughs than your intentional attempts at humour, you've got a problem
     
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  12. DailyPlunge

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    Quit speaking for others. That wasn't my experience.
    People cheered when I saw it.

    I'm tired of people reading stuff online and assuming it's the majority opinion. It was great scene and awesome moment for Leia.
     
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    I bet your lying, or at least exaggerating lol. There would have been people laughing their butts off, or people like me who felt it was a facepalm moment
     
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    Why can't you accept that some people liked the film? I've seen the film three times in two different cities, in packed theatres and no one laughed during the Leia scene.
     
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    I except it, but like I said I'm amazed by what's been defend on here. Its as if this film can do no wrong, or its taking the story in a new direction. The fact it also makes a mockery of the lore, I thought die hards would be up in arms. No ones outraged that Rey seemingly becomes basically a Jedi master over the course of a few days, and that's with no real guidance from Luke?
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    And I still think that's a lie.
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    Bad spelling on my behalf
     
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    I'm sorry we're disappointing you and that most people like the film. You're not gonna change our minds.
     
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    To qoute: stop talking for others. And I'm not intending on changing your minds. Just wanted answers that made sense to me. And unfortunately they don't. Trust me, I wanted this film to be good, but subjectively its horrible
     
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    Good lord. It's fine if you don't like the movie. In fact, it's no skin off my back at all- I got to watch a new Star Wars that I enjoyed last month, I'm truly sorry you can't say the same.

    But statements like the quoted are just incendiary and ridiculous- at least the perceived plot holes are arguable, but trying to put a subjective rating of enjoyment on a movie is just flat out wrong.
     
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  19. DarthPilkington

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    You make unsubstantiated claims about the theater erupting in laughter during the leia scene and yet accuse these guys of lying? :rolleyes:

    As for die hard fans coming out in force against this movie, why bother? I am a huge fan of Star Wars. If I didn’t like the new Star Wars trilogy or movies do you know what I’d do? Carry on with my life. You know what I wouldn’t do? Whine about it online.

    I didn’t really like Rogue One. At all. You don’t see me trolling the R1 forum demanding people justify whatever feelings they may have.

    Just my 2 cents...
     
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    Good luck with that. You know, one side must be wrong, right? RIGHT? And it's not MY side!

    On a more serious note. It doesn't bother me that some people didn't like or outright hated the movie. There's this saying about opinions...

    What does bother me is that some of them try to poison others' enjoyment in it, whenever they can. It's more visible in some threads than in others. Just when the constructive discussion gets going (and not just between the people who liked the movie), one of them just has to come in with some sarcastic, demeaning comment that derails everything, but has no other meaning or value than "I am right and you are all wrong, because I don't like it and there are others who agree with ME!" Sometimes I wonder if this is how they live their lives or it's just the Internet factor. Because if they do, what a joy they must be to their surroundings. (And let's not pretend that 'lovers' are entirely innocent of this, but it's somehow more difficult to poison someone's bad experience with love.)

    Sometimes it's really hard to be a Jedi here. It's really tempting to sometimes go full Sith. Breathe, just breathe...
     
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