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Where did Kylo Ren get the inspiration for his lightsaber?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Irt Malk, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. Irt Malk

    Irt Malk Rebelscum

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    Anyone who remembers Roblio Darté from Star Wars: Purge? Although he`s not canon anymore he could be recanonized. Why? Because he carried a cross guard lightsaber. It`s highly unlikely and I do believe that Kylo got his inspiration, for his lightsaber, from Ezra as I do believe he`s a part of the knights of Ren as well.

    Ezra will in season 2 meet Darth Maul as we saw in the mid-season trailer of rebels. Maul could very well work for Snoke as he still craves more power, but he has no one to teach him. We know that Snoke has had, and I`m quoting Wookiepedia, "At least one other apprentice" (apart from Kylo Ren of course).

    My guess is that Disney wants to tie Rebels and the new trilogy together, drop little hints here and there. What this could mean is that Snoke finds Maul and gives him a mission, bring Ezra Bridger to me. Snoke wanted Kylo as his apprentice because he was the perfect mix between the light and the dark. We know that Ezra has used the dark side before and perhaps Snoke looks at him in the very same way. Ezra could have been a failed project.

    In the mid-season trailer we also see Ezra holding a crossguard lightsaber. Let`s say Ezra falls to dark and joins Snoke and Maul. Snoke and Maul would be interested in this variant lightsaber and so Snoke brings this lightsaber design to Kylo Ren. Kylo`s lightsaber is so unstable because his training isn`t done yet. In episode 8 we might see a more stable version of the crossguard lightsaber.


    My other theory is that Vader himself saw Roblio Darté use this lightsaber when he dueled him and many other Jedis on Kessel. Vader takes the saber with him but doesn`t show it to Palpatine. He keeps it for himself and later, in some way, Kylo Ren finds out about the crossguard lightsaber. We know of Kylo`s obsession with Vader and so Vader decided to in some way document all facts about the saber. Kylo obtains this holocron, data file or whatever it is and makes his own. As earlier mentioned, his training isn`t complete and the saber becomes unstable. This would make a lot of sense as Vader is his “idol” and of course a vader-fanboy would want every little piece of knowledge about his big idol. IMG_0324.JPG Darté fighting Vader with a crossguard lightsaber.
     

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    I like the Ezra theory and the Darté theory as well even if its currently non-cannon. I feel like the backstory to Kylo Ren's lightsaber will never be solved in the movies though, because there is so much more going on that they have to answer. So I feel like it is left to a T.V show(Rebels) or some type of reading material to explain the full nature of how the cross-guard came to be.

    I also can't wait to see how Ezra came to get his... And who had it previously.
     
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    The crossguard saber design dated back a couple of thousand years to the Great Scourge of Malachor and was an ancient design. I think that Kylo likely found reference to someone (or several people) that potentially carried it, and possibly saw archival photos and/or even schematics to the construction, and built one of his own.

    I think it's interesting that Wookieepedia even references that the reason Kylos LS was so unstable is because it was constructed with a cracked crystal here. WHY he chose that design may likely be because (like anything else) the design was intriguing, or maybe even because he thought that the side emitters and the resultant blades might protect him better in the event that he faced a more experienced saber-wielding opponent.

    We do know that Kylo has a inferiority complex, and makes up for it by being so damned brutal which may ALSO be the reason that he chose that design....as a visual deterance.
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    I have to agree with this. I also think that we may get a mention of the origination of the reason why Kylo chose, but only in a passing conversation.

    On a final note, I believe that we're also going to see something disastrous happen as a result of the flawed design or construction. The crystal (i'm imagining) will either fail and the blade may either stop working during combat with Luke or Rey, or may even explode and potentially leave him horribly disfigured or dead. IF he ends up disfigured and ends up with some biomechanical arm (or more) then it will set him up to believe EVEN MORE that he's fulfilling Vaders destiny.
     
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    i thought the point of the crossguard was to vent the cracked crystal. i was surprised to see the trailer with the green saber. i don't get the mechanics and part of me doesn't care, but i sort of feel the green saber cheapens the coolness of Kylo Ren's since i assumed Kylo Ren's was just defective and designed that way by necessity, not aesthetics.
     
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    Yeah, supposedly the crossguard lightsaber is inspired by the
    Great Scourge of Malachor,
    which in the old EU meant:
    Revan
    Which I'm REALLY hoping is something that they bring into the new canon in some form.
     
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    That would be awesome!
     
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    Well since his mask is also a little Revanish, it could be inspired by that, but don't forget that Revan is not canon...
     
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    "In 2011, Revan was slated to appear in Ghosts of Mortis, an episode of the third season of the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series. Revan would have appeared as a Sith Lord alongside Darth Bane as advisors to the Son, but they were cut from the episode in late production. The show's director, Dave Filoni, was apprehensive of using the scene, and the scene was removed at George Lucas's request because it conflicted with Lucas's view on the Force. The scene made it to the animatics stage and could be viewed in the bonus content on the Blu-ray edition of Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Complete Season Three. The scene is set in the Well of the Dark Side on the planet Mortis, where the powerful Force wielder known as the Son confronts dark side spirits about the recent death of his sister, the Daughter, at his hands. The spirit voices tell the Son to embrace his pain and resentment, and when he questions their identities, giant apparitions of Darth Bane and Darth Revan appear to the Son, proclaiming their intent to ensure the dark side's supremacy. Speaking of another's existence who will control the galaxy, Revan and Bane warn the Son that control over Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One, is the key to the Son's success."


    You know what else is canon though?
    Tatooine, Dantooine, and Kashyyyk (obviously)
    Taris (where KotOR begins)
    Rakata Prime (where the Star Forge was located)
    Selkath (the native species from Manaan)
    Koriban (known in the film era Jedi Order as Moraband)
    Old Republic ships.

    Revan is almost a reality.
     
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    Maybe he like to play medieval video games....:rolleyes:.

     
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    I think maybe Snoke sent (or just Kylo went himself) to a Sith temple, probably Malachor, and discovered it so he based his saber off of that
     
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    Interesting, do you also think he got the starkiller base idea from the Malachor battlestation as well?
     
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    Na it's Deathstar 3.0. Do we even know what the Malachor battlestation looks like?
     
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    No clue yet we have only this.
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