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Where do you want to see Star Wars go after the Sequel Trilogy?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by The Hero With No Fear, Jul 3, 2020.

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Will we see more stories with the sequel characters or will we jump further ahead? Or both?

  1. We’ll see more stories with Rey and her friends!

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  2. We’re gonna jump far beyond the Skywalker Saga!

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  3. We’ll see both!

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  1. The Hero With No Fear

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    With the release of The Rise of Skywalker last December, the Sequel Trilogy and the Skywalker Saga has been brought to a conclusion. The stories of Ret, Poe, Finn, and BB-8 have seemingly been brought to an end. But as Luke Skywalker famously says:

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    Where do you foresee future movies (as well as books, comics, shows, etc.) going following the events of The Rise of Skywalker?

    Will we see the return of Rey and her friends? Will we have to wait 30 years to see their stories continue and will they pass the torch onto other characters?

    Or do you see Lucasfilm skipping farther ahead in the timeline to tell new stories about new characters in new places?

    In general, where do you see the story going after the conclusion of the Skywalker Saga? I’m interested to see what you all have to say!
     
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    Well, I was pretty curious about what RJ was about to create. That a posible new trilogy will be focusing in something not related to the jedi and the Skywalker. But now I don't even know if they will continue with this project.:(

    But in 10 or more years it will interesting to see news stories about Rey and her friends.
     
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    I think Star Wars is far too concerned with going backwards and the concept of a prequel is inherently flawed. Not in the sense they can’t be good movies, but in the sense you are limited with what can happen. For example, in the prequels we know nothing can happen to Obi-Wan and Anakin is doomed to become Vader. It takes away the stakes and makes the plot predictable, like Rogue One for example. Before that movie even came out, we already knew they would be successful in their mission and would probably all die (as the characters don’t appear later in the saga).

    What I’m trying to say is, for the love of god, go as far into the future as possible! Then anything can happen and it doesn’t have to tie into anything that came before.
    Unlimited potential (emperor)
     
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    I would like to see a new story. Maybe the restoration of the jedi order, new planets, new characters. Preferably set in the future and not in the past. Rogue One was great because it was a different story, despite we knew the end. Not again Skywalker please...
     
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    I personally want to see a conflict between some pre-established states/empires. Like the Old Republic vs Sith Empire or some new post-Exegol interplanetary "countries". Of course, since it's Star Wars, one side has to be an evil dictatorship with a horde of faceless mooks, but hey - when was this ever a problem?
     
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    I voted for more stories of Rey and her friends. Yes I am a Rey fan, but honestly TROS ended in such a way that you really wanted to find out what happens next.

    · The rebels defeated TFO but there is no central government. How long before in-fighting and territorial disputes happen? Will someone come to Rey and tempt her to take the throne to bring stability….which of course leads to: Could she end up falling to the dark side like in her visions?

    · The Sith Eternal are still out there, what happens to that massive fleet of ships located in the unknown regions?

    · Will Rey attempt to bring back Kylo from the Worlds Between Worlds (presumably that’s where he is given his force ghost was not shown)?


    I know that Disney said that the Skywalker Saga was dead. But that was before management changed and Covid-19 hit and impacted revenue due to closures. Disney might want to recoup their financial losses by bringing in a tried and true continuation trilogy or maybe even two more films with fan favourite characters. And don’t forget how popular Reylo is.

    I don’t see it happening in the immediate future, but I would think they would want to do it in the near future before the two leads become too old.
     
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    Might as well give out my two cents!

    I think we’ll see stories far removed from the Skywalker Saga first. Ever since we heard about Rian Johnson’s trilogy, I always imagined it taking place a few decades or even centuries after the time of the Skywalkers. I think that era’s where the films will go next starting in 2022, but I could see them doing stuff with the High Republic too.

    Seeing stories with Rey after The Rise of Skywalker is more interesting to me though and I can see us getting back to them in 15-20 years. I don’t know how big of a role Poe and Finn will play based off some of John and Oscar’s statements in recent months, but I could see it delving into the Rey/Jedi side of things more. Whether or not this will be seen as Episodes 10-12 or as the start of something new, I’d rather it focus on the new generation of characters rather than pulling Chewie and the Falcon back in again.
     
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    Finn having a fairly huge following and his emerging force powers would be something to see in a film. Not to mention it would be nice to see him reprise his leadership abilities. I read that Boyega doesn't want to do tv (although I suspect that tune would change if he needs work or offered a substantial amount of money). But he would return for a film. I also think he likes Finn.

    As for Isaacs's I'm not a SW nut so there are only a few forums I frequent, But I don't think he'd be missed if he doesn't come back or isn't invited to return. He doesn't seem to have that an enthusiastic following and the Han Solo wanna be/cowboy is really a role that can be played by anyone. And frankly his flippant remarks about only wanting to return 'if he needs another house', is arrogant and unprofessional. There are plenty of actors out there who would love the opportunity financial or professional that SW brings. If he doesn't want or feels he's too good for the franchise. Let him move on.
     
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    I think the sequel trilogy can stop and be left alone for a while. A lot more can be done with smaller stories, like the Mandalorian and (recently announced) Lando series and the Obi-wan series (is that still a thing?). I personally want to see character focused stuff, or deeper dives into galaxy politics and the outer rim. I feel like the sequel trilogy was too high stakes and as a trilogy kept trying to outdo the last installment before it. I care way more about individual characters and stories than the overarching Good vs Evil thing.
     
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    Cheers,
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    I'm always bummed that Crimping isn't an actual style of music, because...man...it really should be. lol
    And yeah, love the Boosh.

    My wife and I actually have a term for when you see something or experience something that pokes a new slot in your mind - we say it "Booshed my mind."

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    I think Star Wars needs to move forward and tell other stories, I don´t mind if they are pre episode I or post episode IX, but I think they need to go beyond the skywalkers... I wouldn´t mind to see what´s next with Rey, but not right now, they have to leave ST ,skywalker saga and furthermore, all the period of time between episodes I to IX to rest for a while...
     
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    Whatever Taika has planned. I don't think he could disappoint, loved Thor Ragnorok if he can pull off a female Thor, I'd love to see him tackle Brie Larson as Asajj Ventress, not a screaky clean Jedi like Kathleen Kennedy has in mind. I'd love to see an introvert like Brie unleash her wild side. We need a female sith in Star Wars. Evil Rey was a wickedly delicious tease.
     
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    You know...everyone talks about what era or type of story they want to see going forward.

    Here's my 2 question that I have a hard time answering how I feel about it:

    1) Narrative
    Should Star Wars continue being allegorically driven with interwoven narratives lead by meta-narrative poetics or let that drop for more character driven stories that are not driven by allegorical meta-narrative poetics?

    I'm torn on this because the Star Wars allegorical poetics has both been one of the most unique aspects of what makes it Star Wars, and has also been pushed to its absolute limit in the Sequel Trilogy. There's a finite limit to this kind of thing before it goes off the rails and gets just downright frustrating, or silly.

    It's like reverb/echo. To a certain point, it makes songs sound better. But if you just let it keep echoing back longer and longer, eventually you muddy the song in place of the effect.

    On the other hand, just having a character driven narrative that drops the meta-narrative poetics really just turns Star Wars into a straight melodrama subject to all victimization of that style regarding overly frustrated plots and perpetually endless non-resolutions (the super soap-opera that we know today - almost every serialized bit of content out there at the moment).
    2) Camera
    Should Star Wars attempt a definition of what Star Wars visually looks like, and how it moves, or should it be freely open to be treated in visual language however anyone at the helm wishes to handle it?

    On this one, I'm less torn, but I don't have faith or hope.
    I firmly believe Lucas' way of shooting, framing, and editing Star Wars should be honored and retained, as that is almost entirely what defines Star Wars the most visually at this point.
    Right now, what Lucas thinks in this manner still voluminously defines the franchise catalog (he's done the most films), but there will quickly come a year when the non-Lucas films will out-number that of the Lucas films. We're only one film away from a tie, and if you count up the hours of Mandalorian, we've basically already gone past the Lucas threshold.

    So far, half of the assets have attempted a sort of Lucas approach with compromises (TLJ, Solo, Mando), and half of them have not (TFA, R1, TROS).

    There will be soon a time, I'm very certain, where the assets that have not attempted to do so will easily out number those which do attempt to do so.
    It's natural for that to happen because things get muddied over time in clarity of what a certain way or vision was, and even if there is a definition it is difficult.

    But philosophically, I have a snag because I don't think it's good to hold onto something forever. You cause it to lose vibrancy by attempting to do that, and eventually in trying to hold onto something forever, you just end up holding a decayed flower in your hand.

    Freedom of expression guarantees a fresh life breathed into the lens, but it also sadly means that the aesthetic and way of visually telling a story that Lucas uniquely carved out will fade away as time moves on, much more sharply.

    So while I am certain from a craft and emotional sense, I'm not so certain on the answer in terms of integrity and sustainability.


    I find these questions far more interesting than where in time they specifically go, what types of stories they tell, or who is in them.

    How the stories are told makes a very big difference, and it's a difference I don't think many of us in the fan base are thinking about (and I don't see a big amount of attention being put into it on the franchise operations of Lucasfilm either, to be honest).

    Cheers,
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    Whoever is at the helm of the next trilogy should take a cue from The King (2019) presently on Netflix, it's not great but merely good. we need just a good Star Wars flick...The young King's relationship with the aging knight is what I imagined a padawan and his master's interrelation should be.
     
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    I think any good story will have spiritual/philosophical analogies simply by nature of being good. Or least somewhat competently written.

    The main films (I-IX) are focused on the philosophical, spiritual, emotional aspects of character and being. That's definitely why a lot of people resonate with the films. There is something uniquely of depth to them.

    I think the key to continuing stories set in the GFFA should strike the balance of some stories "just being fun," to which I would put Solo and the Mandalorian in that category. It doesn't need the same philosophical weight the Saga has, but insure it has good writing, a good story, a good purpose, and now you have a decent movie (I mean, at least in theory :p).
    Other films should have the more spiritual and philosophical pull. Focus on things the main nine films only touched on or haven't explored, explore the Force in different but personally relevant ways.

    By having some movies in the "just for fun" category it keeps people in love with adventure and thrill, and it allows the other movies with more weight to fill the need of that more personal storyline.
     
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    I don't see Solo as "just for fun", and I'm not sure on Mando just yet. We'll have to wait and see.

    The point of the allegorical meta-narrative wasn't that the story's just have spiritual and philosophical tonalities and messages, because as you note, that is a common feature of many films.

    Star Wars, rather specifically, is like The Dark Crystal in that it has historically been driven by the allegory as the driver of the narrative more than the characters.
    The plot doesn't happen because that's where the character exploration needs to go to explore the character.
    The character's evolution happens because that's how it gets them to the allegorical motif of interest.

    It's a different way of telling a story, and Solo does it as well.
    Even the fun Star Wars is running off and doing this stuff. ANH, TFA, TPM, Solo - they all do this.

    With Solo, it's an interesting hybrid mix that seemed to work decently well - though slightly clunky a tad.
    It used the character driven narrative construct in tonality, but it didn't deliver one at all - it was a straight allegorical archetype checkbox story. There wasn't any real character evolution or deep psychoanalysis going on. The Matrix, it was not.

    Mando might actually be the first to straddle both worlds successfully in full. The ST tried to ram character driven narrative into an allegorically driven narrative and most of the troubles the ST had came from the complication that's created when you attempt that approach.
    Mando seems to have gone the other way around, such that it's hitting an allegorical way points as they have opportunity to occur a bit more organically in a character driven narrative.

    That's something that Mando has the luxury of doing as a series about only one principle character, while the ST had a LOT to cram into 7 hours and 20 minutes.
    Mando's ran 5 hours and 20 minutes and it's only done, effectively, act one.


    Just to be clear here, an allegorically meta-narrative driven story is one where I say that I want to discuss the moral responsibility of a person upon society and growing into accepting that responsibility as a mature member of society instead of giving into their base impulses and selfish wants and desires, and so I anthropomorphize their desires as a great dragon that can either destroy them or give them great power, and I make the hero a page boy of a knight who dies in his sleep suddenly, and the boy takes on the knight's role in disguise so he doesn't return to poverty of the street, only to get accidentally sucked into a quest issued by the King, who thinks the boy is the knight, to go out and kill a great dragon plaguing the countryside.

    That would be an allegorically driven narrative. That's how Star Wars, at its core, works (or rather, has worked).

    The opposite of that is that we just start with the boy and the knight situation, but we don't worry about what moral meta-narrative we want to say, but instead let the morality of discussion be that which arrives out of examining the psychological struggles the boy has as himself in his specific situation.

    Again, a similar ilk is The Dark Crystal.
    It wouldn't really work to dump the allegorical driver of that story and focus on evolving the story out from a character exploration as the primary driver.

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    I think we are going to retreat a bit. Well, thats a way to put it. I mean we may be going into eras of the galaxy that we have not been covered too much in canon and whatnot. For example the Old Republic. Maybe a trilogy on that. We could easily be introduced to new empires or republics or any prominent society. Im hoping for the Old Republic. We can get introduced to new Jedi generals and characters. Some would say that another trilogy is nor happening. Keep in Mind that George Lucas never suspected an Episode 7 but here we are!
     
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