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Where is the Romance? Part II

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by HAL'sgal, Dec 18, 2017.

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    Same here. Rey happiness comes first.
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    Ben is the defence against the dark arts teacher, not potions:p
     
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    I kind of want Rey to have a huge family - own or adopted. She's been alone for so long. :(
     
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    Sure. After an 8 pack make out.
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    And then she lost Han and Luke...:(

    But she has Finn Poe Rose Chewey and Porgs!!:)
     
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    lol....Well, Rey is still 19 in TLJ considering 2 days passed in TFA, and another 2 or so days passed during TLJ.... so building a new order and being besties does make sense for now since she is a little too young to get married and have kids.

    I think a Rey and Kylo romance would be epic....I just question their romance being based on the need to perpetuate the Skywalker-Solo line. Honestly, I think its best to keep an open mind and see what the film makers give us in terms of romance when it comes to Rey, if they even do give her romance. I'm only against the potential for a relationship being criticized before it even happens as in the case of Rey and Poe.

    But for now, I absolutely love the Finn-Rose romance....Rose's expression when she said she saved him was so heart melting. :)
     
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    With Rey and Poe it's more timing than anything. They haven't talked much.

    Finn Rose is bae!
     
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    never. if they end up together and raising 16 kids, it's not because those kids will be Skywalkers.

    too late for that, people love to prejudge. hahahaha

    awwww, it really is sweet. i hope they develop this in an interesting way.
    it makes a good contrast: a nice, healthy relationship to model what Rey and Ben should have in order to be legitimate.

    frankly, we haven't had a truly healthy relationship in Star Wars yet. we desperately need one.
     
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    I know that people now started shipping Rey and Poe. Why? Because they smiled at each other? Because Oscar Isaac can have chemistry with a cactus?

    Rey has more in common with Finn (shared experience, friendship) AND Kylo (Force) for them and us to create a romance based on a smile. As someone said, sexual chemistry exists, but c'mon... Also, Finn and Rose, as great as they are individually, have spent less than 24 hours together. That's why people don't like that kiss. It can be realistically result of hero worship/near death experience, but romance... I don't know if I am convinced.

    I'd like for them to skip romance in the ST and just build and develop more friendships. For example, I'd like Rey and Rose to share some screen time, Rey and Finn, Poe and Finn, Rey and Poe too, and the entire group together. Build group dynamic, build a family.

    Leave smooching in a hangar bay for the future.
     
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    I guess I could share Poe with Rey, ;) but I just don't think Rey will be in on a romance, whatever it is. I believe that would chafe under the metanarrative they have set up for her. I just rewatched TFA and had to laugh at the clumsy, heavy-handed way they emphasized her ability to take care of herself when Finn tried to take her hand when the station was under attack. She told him to stop doing that- twice! Okay, we get it. She's very self-reliant and doesn't need anyone to take care of her.

    I think they're going with the whole fish-needs-a-bicycle thing with her (you young 'uns can look that up if you haven't heard that before). Most likely she will find a family of friends, which she definitely needs, but not a man. It's just too traditional.

    I really agree with you here and I couldn't see how they could do that with Rey and Finn. When the whole saga starts by Anakin becoming space Heathclif, turning to the Dark Side and nearly destroying the known universe over the perceived betrayal & death of his woman, well... that's kind of epic.

    And even though Han & Leia were not quite that dramatic, they had a nice witty tension going on there. There was definitely a spark that made it interesting. A rom-com with blasters. That also worked.
     
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    TLJ is a romantic drama after all.
     
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    Boy, that's going to set a few fires. Hopefully not in the form of flame wars.

    It's also the basic plot of Lost Stars.
     
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    Can't be real. Disney can't support abuse.

    Didn't daisy also post something insinuating romance between Kylo and Rey?
     
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    I don't recall her posting anything, but she definitely 'liked' quite a bit of Reylo art.
     
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    But still, at 5 min. Not only is it still alive (ReyLo is) but it's on a whole new level
     
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    Guess it's time to run dramatically into the loo and cry for half an hour. :)

    But seriously. This has the potential to become one of the greatest love stories ever told or to blow up in their faces. If they keep at it with the tone they took in TLJ, they should be fine. But if Chris Terrio does any of that Martha bullshite... yikes.
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    I for one welcome our Lord and Saviour Mr. Adam Douglas Driver.

    It's so nice to see him comfortable and happy. He's usually so anxious at these press thingies. I'm so proud of my boy (who's like 15 years older than I am but like who's counting)
     
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    You have to consider that the Finn-Rey relationship was also 24 hours long. And Finn-Rose now have shared experiences as well.

    In fact, minus the time when Rey was kidnapped. Their time together was less than 24 hours.
     
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    i honestly can't make a case for "abuser" against Ben.

    TFA doesn't count because they were not in a relationship.
    they treated each other as opponents and she beat his ass.

    in TLJ what exactly does he do that's so terrible?
    he tactlessly yells at her to accept the truth about who she is.
    he's mean and angry because he's feeling rejected after allowing himself to be vulnerable.
    (huh ~ just like his father, who yelled at Leia in the hallways on Hoth--he's an idiot).

    but everyone just hears "you're worthless" and ignores the "not to me" part, which is the crucial piece of information.
    or else they say he's just manipulating her and there's no sincerity in it.
    Ben is selfish, but he also only understands that his own life has been completely ruled by "meaningful destiny".
    for the first time he's challenging himself by saying he believes her to be his equal regardless of where she comes from.
    he's making a sincere (albeit privileged and wrong-headed) effort.

    and she absolutely rightly rejects him for his behavior because:
    1. he is selfish and he needs to grow up,
    2. he expresses himself abysmally and,
    3. he's clearly not letting go himself.
    but if we're calling that abuse, then much of what passes for conversation in general (and especially around here as of late) falls in the same category.

    abuse is a pattern of behavior. most of what passes for their "relationship" in TLJ is tense, but they communicate and share understanding.
    then Ben blows it (spectacularly) after they've been through a traumatic experience together, when they are both feeling more vulnerable and fearful.
    that's basically like saying any man who ever yelled at any woman even one time because he was stupid, hurt, and confused is an abuser.

    nope. not buying it.
     
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    Good post. Some people call it abuse because he's a man and she's a woman.
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    Kylo will discover that the name of Rey's mother was Leia, and that's why he'll refuse to duel her.

    Part of me hopes they can pull it off, or at least JJ can, if they decide to go full steam canon.
     
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    Me neither. They're both warriors, in a sense. Getting beat up is part of the job description, as is trying to psych out your enemy.

    And, if the question is a discrepancy in power, they seem pretty evenly-matched, which is the kind of the main point to the ST up until now. From that perspective, Holdo repeatedly calling Poe "flyboy" seemed a lot more abusive to me.
     
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    Oh for gawd sake, ReyBen has been obvious since he took off his mask in front of her. The trilogy is hinged on it. TLJ didn't end that story, it gave it a kick up the backside.

    "Get ready!"
     
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