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Who does the movie title refer to?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Darth Walt, Apr 12, 2019.

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The movie title refers to...?

  1. Luke Skywalker

    23 vote(s)
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  2. Leia Skywalker

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  3. Anakin Skywalker

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    16.6%
  4. Shmi Skywalker

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  5. Rey Skywalker

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  6. Ben Skywalker

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  7. Another Skywalker

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    11.3%
  1. DigificWriter

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    They're Canon, but we weren't meant to interpret them as telling us that Palpatine is literally Anakin's "father".
     
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    Sure, certainly not in the literal sense. However, if Sidius was indeed behind the two Vergences, then he could be a figurative father for both Anakin and Rey, in the metaphorical sense, of course.
     
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    ^ I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to communicate.

    We have been told that we were not supposed to look at the panels in question and draw the literal conclusion that they show us that Palpatine was responsible for creating the "Vergence in the Force" that "birthed" Anakin.
     
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    I recently read this crazy theory that Rey is actually Shmi Skywalker. She is Force impregnated by Sideous and is sent back in time perpetuating a never ending time loop.
     
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    Yes, I'm not sure I follow you. You say that we were told we're not supposed to draw the literal conclusion by what they show of Palpatine being responsible for creating the "Vergence in the Force" that created Anakin from those comic panels. Ok, even if we don't take those panels literally, it is still a possibility. A heavily implied one. TPM suggests Anakin is A vergence in the Force. I guess we'll see in December if Palpatine was behind it or not, and Rey's for the same matter.
     
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    The panels in that comic depict Palpatine and Shmi together while she is pregnant and Palpatine touching her stomach, with the depicted conclusion being that he used the Dark Side to "create" Anakin, but we've been told not to take them literally.

    Yes, Anakin is a "Vergence in the Force", but we've been told not to literally draw the conclusion that Palpatine created said Vergence despite the final issue of the Vader comic seeming to depict such a scenario.
     
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    Wow - nice open-minded, friendly post there.

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    I guess we will see. It seems obvious to me that the net result of this trilogy is that the Jedi Order of the other 2 trilogies will no longer exist. And I'll bet that whatever is the ending new Force-wielding group/order, it will be a LOT closer to the Grey Jedi than the original Jedi.
     
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    I highly doubt skywalker is replacing Jedi not because it’s a bad theory but it’s too confusing for non Star Wars people. Tell an 8 year old that Rey is a skywalker. Oh she’s Luke’s daughter. No skywalker means Jedi. Oh so she’s a Jedi. No she’s a skywalker. Oh Luke’s daughter. And so on. My father was confused by this as well. Plus it isn’t necessary. Also it’s skywalker not walkers. It’s one person.
     
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    Maybe Shmi is Plagueis reincarnated in a new body, who used the force to create child that would provide a new powerful body that he could inhabit and then take over the Galaxy.
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    Bendu are meant to be the "Grey force" users are they not. Who outside of hard core fans would know that. Stick with the Jedi, change the code that they live by. Do not rename them skywalkers.
     
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    That's interesting, what comic is this from?
    Did Plagueis appear at all in the comic?
    In his book he believed Anakin had been created by the force as a reaction to the inbalance created by Sidious and himself in their dark side rituals.
     
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    I like the theory that the title refers to a new order of force users. However there is one small problem. The word Skywalker is singular which implies a single person rather than group.

    If you take the teaser at face value, the Skywalker in question is obviously Rey. But this JJ Mystery Box Abrams we are dealing with so there is most certainly some deception going on. So I think the title refers to Ben.
     
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    Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #25 (published last December)

    It's the conclusion of the title as a whole and is part of the arc whereby we learn about the Sith Lord Momin, the ability of Sith to imbue artifacts with their consciousnesses, and the details behind the construction of Vader's fortress on Mustafar.

    Not that I'm aware of.
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    All 8 of the cast members from the film who were at Celebration said that they didn't believe that the trailer was cut so as to be deliberately misleading in any way.
     
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    But Ben's actor has passed. How could they pull that off without having the actor to reprise? Or do you think they are gonna pull a ROTJ Special Edition creeper Anakin on us?
     
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    They already ruined the Solo last name by turning it into a joke from a random imperial bureaucrat, they don't need to drag the Skywalker name into that misuse as well from a family into drivel that applies to everyone.

    My advice: Don't change the meanings of names. It just makes it more confusing for casuals anyway.
     
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    I’m talking about Ben Solo. Not Kenobi.
     
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    Thinking about this title on the way to work . . .

    Maybe it's a continuation of the theme from The Last Jedi, in a way that ties in some of the theories I've seen here.

    In The Last Jedi, we saw Skywalker truly become a legend, a symbol of hope. Maybe "Rise of Skywalker" is about the apotheosis of the Skywalker name. The Skywalker name becomes a legend, a symbol of hope. Then Rey adopts the Skywalker name not in a trite "I'm Rey Skywalker!" now way, or even in a formal "Jedi are now called Skywalkers" way.

    She adopts the name as a legend. "Every generation has a legend." That's why she's still using the legacy saber. People see her with her Jedi powers, her Jedi robes, the blue saber, and they feel hope. They say, "It's Skywalker!" The Skywalker name has risen to the status of legend, and she embodies the legend.

    This makes sense of the trilogy and also gives the whole Saga a direction. It makes the whole Skywalker Saga a progression, from little slave boy on Tattooine to something even greater than a single person.
     
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    If Carry didn't die, I would have bet that it's Leia. She was always conflicted about being Anakin's/Vader's daughter and part of that conflict had influenced her relationship with both her husband and her son. As the only person who still has (IMHO) a minuscule chance of redeeming Kylo, it would make sense that she would have to accept her heritage first, especially now when Luke is gone.

    Now that Carry is dead, I don't really have idea. I am just convinced that it isn't Rey.
     
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    Jedi become Skywalker. So Jedis from this point on will now be known as Skywalkers.

    it could be interesting moving forward. I honestly believe this is what it is, everything else just seems too obvious

    Apologies if this has been posted in the thread before, but it's what I think too. The only thing I don't get is the grammatical error in the title if this is the case? "The Rise of Jedi" I guess it makes sense if you turn it around.
     
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    I've been thinking about this....I think The Rise of Skywalker is not a name that only refers to episode IX. I think it is the name of the ENTIRE 9 episode saga. In that context some of the Palpatine theories floated above make some more sense contextually.

    The greatest light side balance of the force was initiated by the greatest dark side wielder....think about that...
     
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    Yeah right. Shimi ain't no Jedi and never was.
     
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