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Who does the movie title refer to?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Darth Walt, Apr 12, 2019.

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The movie title refers to...?

  1. Luke Skywalker

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  2. Leia Skywalker

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  3. Anakin Skywalker

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  4. Shmi Skywalker

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  5. Rey Skywalker

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  6. Ben Skywalker

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  7. Another Skywalker

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  1. VOODOO

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    I don’t think the title refers to a single character, but to the Skywalker movement. You saw a brief glimpse of this in TLJ with broom boy wanting to be like his hero Luke Skywalker...Also, perhaps future Jedi’s are known as Skywalkers
     
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    Putting the name of a specific family in the title of the final film in a 9-hour story that is specifically about said family and then not having said title have anything to do with said family makes zero sense and completely flies in the face of logic, as does having said title be completely disconnected from the protagonist of the final 3 films in said 9-hour story.
     
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    What is Rey doing at the start of the teaser? She is "sky walking" literally and that is new in the film for a Jedi. Perhaps this is what the title wants us to evaluate?
     
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    I'll speculate that the title is something of a parallel to Return of the Jedi which, for all intents and purposes, we could call Return of Skywalker, if you know what I mean. The OT was about the conflict of the light and the dark in Anakin, and how sentiment lead to the rise of the light over the dark, to the redemption of Skywalker, and the defeat of Sidious.

    I'd theorize that the sequel trilogy is the externalization of that inner conflict, with Rey representing the light side in Skywalker, and Kylo representing the dark side. These are the two grandchildren of Anakin through Leia. When Rey learns this (perhaps the hug scene with Leia), then she will "rise" in understanding commitment to her destinty as a Skywalker. This leads to the final conflict with Kylo which is an externalization of the final conflict in Anakin during RotJ. It is again sentiment that will end the conflict with Kylo returning to the light side as Ben Solo. This is the Rise of Skywalker in Kylo, as he, like Rey, commits to his destiny as a Skywalker in finishing what his grandfather started - the defeat of a proverbial Sidious.

    So the internal conflict of Anakin Skywalker which resolved itself and lead to the downfall of Sidious was the beginning of bringing balance to the force, and the external conflict of Anakin Skywalker (in Rey and Kylo) resolves itself to the same effect; the finale of bringing balance to the force. And so, in the conclusion, the Skywalker conflict is resolved through the Skywalker name. Luke and Leia bridging the beginning and the ending, so the title is about each member of the Skywalker family, which itself is Anakin Skywalker by lineage.

    In essence, this movie will show us what was going on inside of Anakin Skywalker during RotJ. From a certain point of view.
     
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    Not buying that it refers to a new order. The grammar doesn't make sense. It has to be in reference to a person.

    Think about it, does the phrase "The Rise of Jedi" make sense grammatically?

    Ben Solo is not a Skywalker.

    I think it's either Anakin returns or Luke. Keep in mind, we have never seen a force projection death before. Perhaps what we saw happen isn't as it seems?

    Another option is that it refers to Anakin's true origin story.
     
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    He is by bloodline.

    However, he's not the central protagonist of the Sequel Trilogy, and so having the title refer to him wouldn't really make sense, especially since both of the previous Sequel Trilogy episode titles have ultimately referred to Rey.
     
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    This is a GOOD question.I think about what happen in TLJ.When Luke "die" he said it.Nobody NEVER gone or die.The rise of Skywalker will be all about the line of the Jedi and the years of generations of them.He was the last one NOW we are going to see things better.Remember....this is the end of this saga BUT the jedi will rise again to bring balance to the force.I vote for Luke.....he bring his father to the light.He will rise his last name MORE than ever in this movie.
     
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    In honor of @Light Savior 's return, here is his fanfare:

     
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    Hi there Lucky.Thanks for the welcome.Long time out BUT here I am again....Is SW time again and watch how this trilogy ends.I hope you are fine and all my friends too.
     
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    If I had to bet on it, I would guess that the title refers to Rey. She is vergence in the force the same as Anakin. It will be revealed in the movie that Palpatine created her the same as he did Vader making them "family" Thus she is a Skywalker. I know many people feel it refers to Kylo but I believe his big moment will be embracing his Solo heritage.
     
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    ^ It's not Canonical that Palpatine "created" Anakin; people drew that conclusion by literally interpreting panels from the final issue of the Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith comic, but a Lucasfilm Story Group member subsequently clarified that the images from the comic that seemingly confirmed Palpatine as Anakin's "father" were not in fact meant to be interpreted literally.
     
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    Not Canon that Shimi has a long lost brother either ;)
     
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    You're right, but only because we know absolutely nothing about Shmi's backstory.

    The only thing that I have been saying in regards to Rey and the meaning of the title "The Rise of Skywalker" is that using the fact that we know nothing about Shmi's history as an avenue for making Rey a Skywalker by blood is the simplest way to explain the title and honor what was set up in both TFA and TLJ.

    I would also point out for those who are convinced that the title does not refer to Rey that not having it refer to her would break the pattern established by the previous films in the Sequel Trilogy, the titles of which both refer to her.
     
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    The title being about Ben has been debated on a few different threads and this is my take on it. While it is possible that it could be referring to him, I just don’t think it fits. This is why

    1. First off is Ben Solo a Skywalker? Absolutely yes. There is no denying that. He can be classified as a Skywalker. That is why I have claimed in the past the ST is part of what they are calling the Skywalker saga.
    2. The term Skywalker saga does not refer to one single person. It refers to the whole line. The PT head Anakin Skywalker. The OT had Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa (No argument that she is a Skywalker), and Anakin in the form of Darth Vader. The ST has Luke, Leia and Ben Solo. All of thes are Skywalkers. However,
    3. The Rise of Skywalker is very specific. It is not talking about Skywalkers in general like the term Skywalker saga
    4. Ben Solo is a Skywalker but he is named Solo. If you were to be specifically to refer to him, you would refer to him as Solo, not as Skywalker. That is why I don’t think the title is about his redemption. That is just the way I see it.
    Now, Ben could always take the name Skywalker when he is redeemed and then the title would work but I personally feel like that does Han wrong.

    Other possibilities as to who is referred to in the title could be

    Anakin- The backstory of Anakin that we all know so well could have a central importance in the movie

    Luke- Luke could literally return from death (not a fan of this theory as it would take away from the successes of the new characters). Luke had to die at some point for the same reason Qui Gon and Obi Wan had to die. The title could refer to the legend of Luke Skywalker and what he did in the end to inspire the galaxy as well as what he strod for as a Jedi.

    Rey- We could get the twist that Rey is Luke’s daughter. Rey could end up taking the name Skywalker (this is my favorite theory and the one I’m going with)

    Now of course the title could have multiple meanings and it will be interesting to see what it ends up being. However, The Rise of Skywalker seems to be referring to something specifically called Skywalker and this since Ben is named Solo, the title doesn’t fit to be solely referring to him.
     
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    This. Why try to make it overly complicated?
     
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    he doesn't even need to take the name.
    he's still a Skywalker no matter what.

    i think the title refers to the bloodline, of which Ben is the tail end.
    same way you would say "Rise of Windsor" for the house thereof.
    i agree people may be overthinking it. : D
     
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    You're right, he does not even have to take the name.
     
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    I think it should be pointed out that JJ has a very straightforward viewpoint on Star Wars as a franchise as evidenced by the way he speaks about seeing the original 1977 film and the impact it had on his life whereas Rian's viewpoint on the franchise is more multifaceted and in line with the larger more mythic aspects of it, and that while JJ recognizes and has said that TROS needs to be and is the culmination of a 9-part story, accomplishing that goal is not going to affect the nature of his viewpoint on the franchise, and so we as an audience really ought to be thinking about what the most straightforward meaning of the title could be based on the fact that Rey is the Sequel Trilogy's stated central protagonist and the fact that both of the previous Sequel Trilogy films' titles have been about her.
     
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    Thank you for seeing this.

    I think it's either Luke or Rey (taking the name or starting an order of Skywalker). Really doubt she'll have the blood.
     
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