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Who should play Leia in Episode 9?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by GotTheSilver, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. Big Daddy Dave

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    Now I want to see that sequel to John Carpenter's The Thing! Macready baby!
     
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    They should have killed off Leia when they had the chance and keep Luke alive for Episode Nine.
     
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    Yes, it would feel natural if they treated the death of Leia in the same way as the death of Carrie, a sudden tragedy for all to overcome, no need to over explain. Leai's passing could also trigger conflict to kick start the story: Who would succeed her among the rebels? Is there another possible candidate for leadership apart from Poe? How will Kylo deal with this news? Will it make him even more unhinged or will it be the push he needs to become "as strong as Darth Vader"? And how will Rey be affected by it? Will she feel the pressure to increase her force powers and undergo some sort of training? Or will it affect her confidence? They might as well serve Carrie's memory by making the death of Leia have considerable impact in episode 9.
     
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    OK that sounds better....but still.....
     
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    I hope no one plays her, and they deal with it in the opening crawl and opening scenes.

    If JJ and KK (there's a joke in there somewhere) decide that the story can't work without Leia, and this is a random suggestion, but how about Tracey Ullman? She's a similar age now to what Carrie Fisher was and there is some similarity there.
     
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    I agree. I have heard a few things on the internet recently about this matter. It seems as if they are not gonna do any CGI or recasting. (recasting is even worse) as you said her funeral will probably the the first or one of the first scenes of epidsode 9.
     
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    They could have a scene after the opening crawl and the first action scene where Poe is visiting Leia's grave or a memorial to her. An exposition scene that also serves to honor her memory for fans, then moving on with the naritive. If they are smart they will use Leia's passing as a key part of Poe's character arc. Which makes sense because the two characters are tied together in the story. Its always been about Leia passing the torch to Poe, like it has Luke passing it to Rey and Vader to Kylo.
     
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    You‘ve heard it on the internet? Leia dies offscreen confirmed.
     
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    Where has that been confirmed? Just curiosity.
     
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    It was meant ironically.
     
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    Oh sorry... I didn't read the rest of the thread... did
    oh sorry... I didn't read the rest of the thread, saw it without context lol
     
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    Not confirmed, just a theory.
     
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    I'm just thinking.....they knew MONTHS after Carrie's death to change the scene of Leia in space, BUT they didn't which means to me, they have plans to do SOMETHING with her still in IX.....right? Or have LFL just totally lost their minds? I believe they may use all the techniques to still have her in the film, it is essential for Leia to be in IX, she is the one that will turn Ben back to the light, whether they recast, CGI, or all the above, I've been very patient with the ST, I'm a Hardcore fan since 77' but I do see light at the end of the tunnel, TLJ just really threw cold water on my theories and such......More things to wait 2 years for....sigh
     
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    Leia's death will be explained in other media (books, animated series). It will be a given in the opening scroll of episode IX.
     
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    This is an interesting idea. Perhaps even have Rey visit Leia's memorial. Then they can mirror Luke's "I can't go on alone" moment in ROTJ. Only this time, Luke walks up and says "Leia will always be with you." Then Luke could explain that Leia is "here" meaning one with the force and she's happy now that she's joined Han.

    They can have Leia references and moments throughout the film without actually having her character. I think the crawl will set it up and the rest of the film will flesh out the how.
     
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    This was great work by the FX team on GOTG2, a lot of practical makeup touched up by CGI.
    However, it's such a brief fleeting moment with very little action.
    I don't know if this could hold up for 90 minutes.
     
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    I think the best way to handle Leia's death is at the beginning of the movie immediately after the crawl that tips us off as to impending fact of her death... and then the scene leads to her becoming one with the Force. I wrote about it in another thread and think this would really be the most moving and emotional way to deal with it that still fits the ongoing narrative:

    I think there would be some interest in the subject of how one becomes a Force ghost, going all the way back to Qui-Gon Jin:

    After the opening crawl, which indicates a time jump of some period and that Leia's health has been in decline (or something to that effect), we begin with the typical star field, but with a voice over from Luke Skywalker... Just his voice, but obviously appearing to, or heard by, only his sister. Therein, Luke explains to Leia that she has nobly led the Rebellion/Resistance, it is in good hands with the new generation of heroes, there is nothing left for her to do, and her time has come to become one with the Force. Then, he can begin to even vaguely explain how to do it... As the screen transitions from the star field like we usually see in the opening sequence of a Star Wars Saga movie, we begin to see a scene similar to what @LadyMusashi has described above. Just as Luke's voice begins to trail off, we see the silouhette of Leia's body disappear, just as Obi Wan and Luke Skywalker did in movies before. Maybe Rey is even present. It could really be an evocative and beautiful scene if done properly. While it breaks the tradition of transitioning to a starship (as JJ almost did in TFA), Leia would be worth it. In this way, we know that Luke Skywalker's Force ghost is still involved, we get a little explanation of how one becomes a Force ghost ("No one is ever really gone..."), and we fully transition from the loss of Leia (and Carrie Fisher) and complete the passing of the torch that was so clearly signaled in The Last Jedi.

    I think this not only solves the Leia conundrum, but it continues one of the most obvious themes from the movie that just came before it. Moving forward into the future with a new generation. Thoughts?
     
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    They should've just had Ren kill her in 8. Would've been perfect. At this point, the best option (in my opinion) is CGI. Tarkin and young Leia looked good enough in RO for me to be able to deal with it. If they just mention it the opening crawl, I'd be fine with that too. Never cared much for Leia either way so, as long as she is dead that's good enough for me.
     
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    I actually think Leia's death just prior to IX would work quite well.

    Each of the first two films in the trilogy have used an offscreen legacy character as a driving force: The search for Luke in TFA, and the memory of Han in TLJ.

    Episode IX's "MacGuffin" could simply be: Where do we go from here without Leia?

    Not only is it set up in TLJ, it ties in perfectly with her final lines. It's a respectful way to reflect on Carrie and close off Leia's storyline, and avoids the inevitable drama that would come with CGI nonsense or a recasting. (Although it would be nice for Ben/Rey to see--or just say they can see-her Force ghost.)
     
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    I think Leia should appear in episode 9 in some way. I think mentioning her death in the opening crawl or opening the movie with her funeral wouldn't be good for the narrative of the film. Even if for only a couple of scenes, they should have Leia in some form. So, they mentioned Carrie Fisher wasn't going to be recreated in CGI, but that was before the movie was given to J.J. Abrams. So there might be a chance they would consider the option. There's also the option of using existing stock footage from deleted scenes, we know there were some deleted scenes of Leia in TFA, and surely they would have one or two from TLJ. They could make it work so her performance in those scenes fits the movie, maybe with help of some GCI in some parts.
    And then there's the option of recasting. Which I personally wouldn't be opposed to. I think it would be a better way to handle the legacy of Leia and Carrie Fisher to let the character live.
    Then if Leia isn't going to be in the movie at all, maybe they could set the movie a few years in the future and just imply that Leia is gone, without having a funeral scene or a mention in the opening crawl, which to me feels odd. Then at the end of the movie Rey visits Leia's tomb, and even they could have Leia appearing as a force ghost to Rey. (This could probably happen in Naboo, I can't think of a better place to burry Leia than beside her mother's tomb). I think some alternatives like those could work better in the movie.
     
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