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Why am I not excited for this film?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by cassidy, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. cassidy

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    I was extremely excited for The Last Jedi after watching The Force Awakens - but why am I not excited for The Rise of Skywalker?

    Please let me know if anyone else feels the same. This forum is my safe space and it would give me comfort to know that others feel the same.
     
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    I was not excited for TLJ and in the end it was a good surprise, an excellent surprise.
     
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    Yeah, my level of excitement isn't exceptionally high either. There are lots of reasons a person could feel that way. Maybe it's because you know that this is the absolute end of the main Star Wars saga and you don't want it to end. Maybe the story and character arcs of the previous films left you wishing for something else and you're not as interested in the continuation of those stories as you'd like to be. Or maybe the trailers just haven't hit home so far.

    It's a very strange feeling not being excited for a Star Wars movie. :) I mean, I was the very first in line at the local movie theater to see the first showing of The Phantom Menace. I waited at the door all day. I've gone from that to TROS where I'll get around to seeing it at the theater at some point... ;)
     
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    It's easy for me to understand.

    On an outside-the-films level, I had some major fatigue with fandom and even Star Wars itself after TLJ. All the fighting and hate just really bummed me out. It was hard to get excited for TROS. It felt like getting ready to be punched in the face again.

    On a film level, it's also understanble. TLJ is great, but it really doesn't leave any major sequel hooks for TROS. Other than the simple fact that the Resistance needs to beat the stronger First Order, there are no real explicit questions left on the table. There's not a sense of needing to see what happens next.

    My excitement has just gone up recently. For awhile I didn't feel anything, but the sizzle reel footage really got me hyped again. I'm preparing myself for a fun adventure, and if I get more than that, all the better.
     
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    I am right there too. I was hyped for all the SW movies, PT, OT, TFA and RO. That has cooled off quite a bit after the train wreck that was TLJ. Solo wasn't quite enough to cleanse the palate and everything I am reading and seeing in the media, especially from KK and Abrams isn't especially encouraging. I will probably see it but it is like Kessel Runner mentioned, its something I will get around to before it leaves the theaters. I am beginning to think that the Mandalorian will be the only true post ROTJ Star Wars for me. I am beginning to accept that the ST will be what I used to think of some of the lesser EU stuff was to the core SW cinematic universe.
     
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    Once upon a time, there was just one movie every three years ( or 20 years ! ) so Star Wars was rare and every thing Star Wars was precious because of it. But following the MCU now there is Star Wars everywhere so the excitement is not what it used to be.

    I mean it's like Netflix with the MCU. When a Spiderman movie was on the air, it was something now you got one reboot a year and live actions about people you barely know : Jessica Jones, Agents of Shield, Reboots ... Daredevil, Avengers, Reboots ... Luke Cage, the dude on the 2nd page behind Ant Man or whatever, reboots ...

    It happens to be the same with Star Wars so it's just one thing more and not a spectacular event.

    On the same convention, you have 2, 3, 4 live series action to be presented to people, sucking a franchise to its bone marrow to sell new services.

    It is the same for Star Trek, Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks and companies are playing with people nostalgia to sell things they do not really care about because they absolutely lack of creativity and it's the same for TV Shows that they put on air, cancel, reboot and then the customer is getting bored more easily than in previous times.

    It's not just about Star Wars, it's about everything ( new phones every year, new games ( reboots ... ) they just sell things whatever until it isn't profitable anymore.

    Look at what Blizzard does with video games too. Starcraft I, II, III, IV ... they even put Wow Classic back and profit from it until death.

    Disney reboots every year their former movies ( Book of the Jungle, King Lion etc ... ) too and so many companies are on the same boat getting every dollar they can.

    It's just consumerism at its best and it's a form of addiction.

    I wish we could recycle plastic at the same rate they recycle this industry products.
     
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    I actually wasn't excited for solo, despite really liking TLJ (in case somebody assumes it has something to do with that movie), so I watched it on the big screen only one or two weeks before it was removed from that cinema.
    And I wasn't excited for Tros, but excitement is slowly coming back since the first trailer.
    Real life might have been too busy.
    And Solo for me was too close to TLJ to build up excitement, while until recently tros seemed too far away.
     
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    I've not been as excited for this as I was for TLJ (which let me down big time), but part of that is 1. the negativity around Star Wars and 2. the marketing of the film. Let's face it, they've kept their powder dry on this one. One teaser in April and that is all we've had. Now this. Obviously I'll go and see it, but oddly I'm more hyped for The Mandalorian and the return of the Clone Wars. Heck I'm pissed we can't see the new Clone Wars season until the new year.

    I think as December approaches and the marketing of the film ramps up (surely it has to ramp up at some point) you will also get excited.
     
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    Well that's just it. We're still only in August, we may get a 100 days teaser or something like that. Once the final trailer in October (MNF) releases, will get a bunch of new tv spots to start rolling around Thanksgiving.
     
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    Here's something I noticed a couple of months ago...

    I watched all 8 movies in less than a week, TFA and TLJ on the same day. With the originals and prequels fresh in my mind, it became obvious just how the sequels were different. TLJ in particular. There's something very unusual about this movie. When I watch it randomly, on its own, it feels very different from the others. But when I watch it along with TFA, it feels as if the two are not only very similar in tone, but make up an entire trilogy all on their own. TLJ feels like 2 movies in one, and the transition from TFA is so smooth that watching them together feels like watching a complete story. So in a way, TLJ gives the viewer a sense of finality.
    And it's because by the end the movie, all characters are in relatively good positions, ready to start new lives.
    Finn proves just how committed he is to the Resistance, which implies that he'll play a very important role in the war to come. It's also implied that he'll develop a relationship with Rose, so his future looks bright.
    Rey accepts the reality of her past and lets go of it, she chooses the light side despite Snoke and Kylo's best efforts, and it's implied that she'll grow into a great Jedi, a symbol of hope for the Resistance.
    Kylo defeats his greatest enemy and becomes the most powerful person in the galaxy, he's finally free.
    And Luke's story has a very satisfying ending too, his sacrifice saves the Resistance and proves just how great he was, both as a Jedi and a person.
    And each of these characters sends a great message:
    Finn's message is that no matter who you are and where you come from, there's a good place for you somewhere, and you'll find it if you follow your calling.
    Rey's message is that no matter how humble your origins are, there is greatness in you. Using it for good won't always be easy, but it's worth it. Stay true to yourself.
    Kylo's message is the winner stands alone. If what you want if absolute power, you have to be willing to sacrifice everything else.
    And Luke's message is that moments of weakness don't matter in the grand scheme of things, they don't define who you are. Even the best of the best fail sometimes, and it doesn't take away from their greatness.

    So there you have it. Doesn't it feel like an ending? It does to me. It's almost as if TLJ sets up a new trilogy, but that trilogy could be released in 5, 10, or 20 years from now. It doesn't even matter, the story feels complete for now. It's the story of how a "holy" Skywalker became the supreme ruler of the galaxy and a nobody became a living symbol of hope. If the story ended here we could assume that Kylo started a dinasty that lasted for 500 years and Rey started a Jedi order that lasted for a thousand. In fact, a new trilogy could take place a thousand years later. That's how final TLJ feels, albeit bittersweet. You might see it in the same way without realizing it yet. I for one AM excited for the new movie, but at the same time I'm like...What is this, I thought we were done lol It's pretty weird.
     
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    Well honestly, I was BESIDE MYSELF with excitement when TFA was revealed and I couldn't see it enough when it was released, but I WASN'T NEARLY that excited about TLJ and only saw it once in theaters, but NOW I'm taking into consideration that this last installment is the finale of this arc in the saga, and I have absolute faith in JJ that he can indeed pull it off.

    I'm back to being almost as excited as I was when we learned that Star Wars lived and would go on with this new trilogy.

    Bring it on!
     
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    This, 100%.

    I also enjoyed TLJ, but the slate was kind of wiped blank (or at least, scribbled out) at the end of TLJ, with little but the obvious to go off of. No "We have to go save Han" kind of tension to resolve.

    That being said, what little marketing TROS has gotten now has been absolutely bonkers, and after a year and a half of tentative excitement, I'm in full on hype mode now.

    What's strange is my Star Wars hype was probably at its strongest directly after the release of TFA, but kinda waned during TLJ's marketing (I was excited, but it just didn't appear to be going where I was hoping). I still enjoyed TLJ, but I think my hype is now at its highest since perhaps the release of Rogue One, maybe even around TFA levels.
     
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    I have felt we had the "we have to go save Han and Leia's kid" kind of tension to resolve...but then, I like to think of myself as a charter member of the #SaveBenSolo club. ;)

    Whether you'll feel hyped yet is probably just a matter of what kind of thing you're invested in seeing play out.
     
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    Because you got SO excited for The Last Jedi and then afterwards you felt betrayed or let down. I feel it too. It's ok to have your opinions. I want to be excited for this but I get the strange feeling that 1. Palpatine won't be featured as prominently as they're insinuating 2. Luke Skywalker will still be dead and 3. It will have too much to do in too little time. I will not be going opening weekend. I will wait and hear what others I generally agree with have to say about it and then decide if it's worth my time/money.
     
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    I too felt very excited for TLJ and very empty after seeing it. I also agree about it not leaving much for a sequel to resolve. But still, I was looking forward to TROS and then I saw the dark Rey footage and my heart sank. I am very sensitive to visuals and the side by side lightsaber just seemed so unnecessary and toyish to me. Honestly, it reminded me of those double-necked guitars. I will see this movie when it comes out because that is what I do, but it is not like it used to be, where I literally needed to make sure I stayed alive to make it to the next Star Wars film. I am far more excited about the Obi Wan show and to a slightly lesser extent The Mandalorian.
     
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    I think if you didn't like TLJ for any reason, it'll be hard to get excited about tRoS. Diddo for the ST.

    Someone else mentioned the characters might be the reason if they didn't resonate with you. The story has few hooks after TLJ. The toxicity of the fandom (no, not only those who dislike TLJ) doesn't help either. In many conversations I've had on here, I found myself uplifted even if we disagreed. It's not that I came around to liking the film, but at least I liked the people who liked the film... that's important.

    I think it's an aspect of this that hasn't been explored. Some of us, the toxic ones I would say, look at those with a differing opinion as less than, and as long as this persists, the division will grow or at least sustain itself.

    It's okay to have an opposing opinion of the film (as though you need my permission:rolleyes:), the problem lies when you talk down to those you disagree with. You make assumptions about them, prejudge them, and this goes both ways. That I think is what keeps the hate alive. That's when it becomes personal.

    This is where it gets tricky. By its very nature, it's hard for someone who dislikes TLJ to not be offensive. In this way, I see haters like myself could be viewed as the problem, yet at the same time, we can't really help our opinion, we don't like it and that's that. We can't pretend to like it and be true to who we are. It's very difficult for us to interact with those who like the film or feel positive about SW right now, certainly not about the saga films and the ST.

    Whereas if you love the film, you have a choice on how to interact with those who dislike it. You can be positive and hope your excitement is contagious and gets some of us aboard if for not other reason that your love of these films grows on us, or you can attack or demean. Fight hate with hate or answer with love. In the conversations I've had, those who showed their love for TLJ are the ones I came to respect and like to read their posts. Yes, even if I disagree. They didn't attack me, they listened (read) my issues, and returned with why they loved it or how or why it worked for them. I didn't agree most times, but their staying positive won them respect.

    In turn, though I still post my issues with TLJ, I've certainly toned down my approach and rhetoric.

    I'm not excited for tRoS, and the closer it's getting the less excitement I feel. At one point I had 50/50 odds I go watch it, eventually, but now I'd be surprised if I took it in at all. SW is the OT and PT, CW and some of the EU now legends, sort of. I might accept some other material if it doesn't lean on, or refer to the ST. That I think is why I'm down on IX and SW though... I feel everything moving forward is going to refer to the ST and even just one reference is too much for me, the whole of that project would be ruined. Which is why I want, so desperately want, a SW that is far before the ST, so that the ST didn't happen yet.
     
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    I am super-excited with a dash of nerves. I guess it is a different kind of excited though. As I think back, it does remind me a little of how I felt in the lead-up to Revenge of the Sith.

    Perhaps the excitement roller-coaster always feels different towards the end of the ride? You set off in anticipation, and the first big lurch or drop is a little unexpected but then you get an idea of what it’s going to be like... the middle bit is enjoyed by some but not by others, and as you approach the end you know you will probably enjoy it but honestly you feel a little giddy and regret that second hot dog you ate before getting on board. But after you disembark, maybe a little later, you’ll be able to make a more considered opinion of how it was overall.
     
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    Man... isn't that the truth.
     
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    I'm excited for Episode 9. TFA was a missed opportunity and shouldn't have been played as safe as it was, too many mystery boxes that I knew would never get solved. TLJ was mediocre, I like some parts but some parts was stupid (Luke characterization didn't bother me as i never was tied to Luke growing up). I like that RJ tried to do new things and take the story in a different direction, despite the execution of it may of not gone what people was hoping. The reason why I'm excited about Episode 9 is that we can finally move away from Luke and OT and start focusing on movies that isn't constraint to a small, narrow box. I'm just ready for ST to be over because TFA ruined it for me in retrospect. All the interesting stories I wanted to see post ROTJ can't happen due to the original cast being too old. Hopefully we'll see it in a show or a cartoon. I personally was more excited for the Spin offs than the ST.

    See, i'm the opposite. I don't view SW as an event film or series (maybe because I only experience the OT on VHS/TV and Episode 1 was my first SW theater experience), I just want to watch various adventures rather having to rely on a book for the adventure (as I was never tied to the old EU as George didn't care for it anyways. TV and movies were the only things I considered as canon). As a kid, I wanted to see more SW movies other than what we got out of the PT and I would of killed for a TV show back then. I was sad knowing that there would be no new SW movies (I don't count TCW movie as that show didn't interest me back then.). When Disney announce that their doing a new Trilogy and yearly SW movies, I was super excited because that's what i've been wishing for 20+ years and now a certain section of the fandom robbed me of that and they're still not happy. I will more than happy take dozen of mediocre movies over hundreds of books that I don't have the time or don't care to read. Hopefully, the Disney+ shows will help fill that void.
     
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    YUP.

    Production has slowed down, like they wanted.

    We've seen very little of TROS, and there's not really anything to complain about. It actually looks really cool!

    Can the pessimism cease for like 15 minutes, please?
     
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