RUMOR Why Colin Trevorrow was allegedly fired.

Amazing what people will do/say/post to take advantage of people who are upset with even something as innocuous as Star Wars.
Now they have those who WANT to believe this, despite it making no logical sense, by the ear and can publish anything and have a built in readership.

 

More or less, this seems to be the trajectory.

 

The idea that CT or fans would clamor for Snoke to be alive is something that I just don't get. It's way to Starkiller base to keep him alive and keep up this Emperor-Vader dynamic. Its way more fascinating to see a rather unhinged Kylo unleashed and in charge. It's like a thread I saw on here a while ago that speculated on what it would have been like if Vader overthrew the Emperor. For those who want more back-story on Snoke, I have no doubt that will be coming... just not in IX. But we'll see him again in either TV series, novels, comics and who knows... maybe his own stand-alone movie.

 

Except, they fired CT first, then they asked Rian Johnson to direct 9 but he declined so they ask JJ. Since RJ declined, JJ was the next logical choice rather than bringing in a new director. I believe JJ stated he really didn't want to direct another SW movie after he did 7. I highly doubt he wanted to Episode 9 at first. I also recall that a lot of SW fans was against CT on doing Episode 9 anyways.

 

I did say "on top of". Meaning that wasn't the only reason.

 

I think MH just likes to find things to talk about sometimes. I love the guy, but he perhaps needs to check that his inner monologue is set to mute sometimes. The FACT is that RJ wrote his script as TFA was being filmed. Long before CT wrote his story. So there was simply never a CT version going around where Luke was alive. RJ had his story early on. The only thing that might've changed is that after CF's death, Trevorrow wanted to change the story in TLJ but this was rejected. Though I don't even buy this. I think KK simply saw how good RJ was doing and then how CT's films were being received and acted. It might have been more of a personality clash. That's how things work in Hollywood. Big films require the director and producer to be on the same page and be able to work fully together. In the case of SW, KK will win every time.

And so with MH, he's just an open guy. He had his doubts about Luke and voiced them. He then loved what RJ and voiced that too. He liked what CT was doing and said so. No doubt he'll have an opinion on JJ's IX as well. And it's fun to hear and all but I just think he could rein it in a touch.

 

I agree that despite the fact that audiences definitely read into the importance of Snoke too much, they were clearly led there. TFA absolutely teased Snoke to be bigger than he was- which ultimately was the point of him, I guess.

 

Johnson: I can only speak to my experience . . . I don’t feel like we’ve had to navigate difficult waters in making this movie. From day one I’ve felt nurtured and protected by Kathy and by everybody at Disney. . . . One thing we did do is, from the very start, everybody was on board with the script that we came up with. We all got on the same page at the very beginning about the movie that we were making. I think that led to smooth sailing as we went forward. We had a shared target that we were all aiming for. . . . If the first 10 minutes of your first meeting you’re not honestly agreeing with each other, then you shouldn’t make the movie. With us, luckily, it’s been a good experience.

How close is this finished movie to the script you first gave Disney?

Johnson: During the course of making it, obviously you form it, you shape it, stuff falls away, stuff gets added, stuff gets tweaked. But the truth is, it really is the film that, even from the very early days, that I came up with, and that I pitched. That’s what we ended up with.

Bergman: I’d say the finished film is about 90 percent of the first draft that you wrote 16 months before we started filming.

Meh.

 

I think we will never know the true story.
But that tweet... looks like CT was taking the chance to say something about
what happened with IX too, from his POV of course.
And that doesn't mean he was right, whatever his idea was.

But there was also a quote from Rian that came out a couple of days before CT was fired...
When he (RJ) said "I just hope I'm not his (CT's) Greedo".

I mean.. my personal feeling is that there was something in ep. 8, CT wanted to be changed or left open to be explored in
his movie in a different way.

And even that it's somehow weird, because he came on board when TLJ script was made.

Maybe, the point was that Carrie passed and because of that... to re-shape IX he wanted some
big change in VIII, but related to Luke.

 

RJ had a flop 2. Brothers Bloom.

 

I get that people wanted more from Snoke. My point is that I think they will get it just not how they envisioned and maybe that is for the best. TLJ is still just the beginning of this franchise rebooting. There is still so much more to come. Snoke doesn't need to be completely "fleshed out" right now. Layers can be added to his story at a later time. Heck, it took the 6th season of the Clone Wars for them to explain Sifo Dyes' order of the clone army... not as important as Snoke but still a rather important plot point.

 

There's an element of "I want to believe" going on here.

Hammil's issues with RJ's original pitch are well documented and way overblown. Hammil has also said that TLJ is his 2nd favorite Star Wars film. Also, Hammil's conversations with CT would have been with Luke dead after TLJ. CT already knew the TLJ story. He wasn't pitching some alternate story. That doesn't fit the timeline or even make logical sense.

This is simply wishful speculation. We know that Disney liked CT's story. We also know that Fisher's death changed the story and CT could never get it work. So he wanted his version 2.0 story to change something in TLJ.

The idea that he wanted Snoke to live is comical. That would change the entire film. If one is to believe this tabloid article the entire TLJ would have to be re-shot. Leia dies, Snoke lives, and Luke survives... c'mon.

Simply ridiculous.