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Why did the Rebels attack Scarif?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by porkozone, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. porkozone

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    I watched RO again this weekend, and one thing that confused me is why the Rebels ended up attacking Scariff after learning that there were "Rebels on Scariff"?

    It seems to me they only made the situation worse. The fleet showing up caused the shield gate to be closed, preventing Rogue One from being able to escape, and having to change their original plan to allow them to beam the plans to the fleet while they got stuck on Scariff. None of that was their original plan, though. Is it supposed to be implied that the RO group would not have succeeded without the Rebels coming in and disrupting everything?

    I am not asking this to gripe, or incite others to gripe about this if it is a plothole - I'm trying to see if I missed something that is in the movie.
     
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    I’d assumed that once they knew what the Rogue crew were up to they realised it was a potential suicide mission and arrived as support to ensure the plans were retrieved?
     
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    If the other Rebels don't show up, those plans don't make it off Scarif.
    @Lazarus Dei is correct. They saw this as a pure selfless act done in the name of the Rebellion and stopping great evil.
    They felt the right thing to do was to ensure that it wasn't in vain.
    If they don't attack and the plans never get off Scarif then Luke Skywalker can't blow up the death star.
     
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    OK, I watched the relevant portions again and I guess I can see that.

    But basically, they met as a group and could not move forward. A few broke the rules and went in, so Raddus also defied the will of the alliance without conferring with anyone else, with cascading effects on the rest of the alliance.

    I get it better now, but I still hate what they did to the Rebel Alliance in general in this movie.
     
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    IIRC Raddus was in command of his own cell of the Rebellion.

    The cascading effects for the Rebellion was a step forward to victory against the Empire.
     
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    correct. The Rebellion was was still fractured. Saw had his group. Raddus had his own thing. Then you had the Mon Mothma's who were trying to get everyone together.

    The Rebellion came together as a clear cohesive unit thanks to the events of Scarif. They needed that win in a big way
     
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    Raddus was in the alliance meeting where they decided as a group not to intervene, so he didn't really have his "own group" the way Saw did (who had been ostracized from the alliance due to his tactics). Radius was the one saying in the meeting that they needed to fight...he just lost the argument to the multiple naysayers and Mon Mothma and Bail Organa who were pretty spineless through it all in front of the group. So Raddus went rogue himself with his cell and went against the Alliance (not even conferring with Ms Mothma before charging into battle).

    I agree that in the end Scariff brought everyone together, but only because they won by brute force and luck, more than planning. I just think there were several minor ways they could have had dissension in the group, that wouldn't have felt as impotent as they came across. In trying to show that the alliance was all but shattered, it felt like it undermined them a bit too much.

    Trust me, it's a nitpick - I'm not trying to trash the movie.
     
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    If the Rebel Fleet don't show up at Scarif then how in the hell are the death star plans going to get off the planet and into Rebel hands?
     
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