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Why didn't Rey do this in TLJ

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by The Last Deadeye, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. FN-3263827

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    language!!! Rey has no hope for "Kylo". she only believes in Ben ~ as she should. ; D
     
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    Regardless if Kylo is redeemable or not, does the question "Why didn't Rey stab an unconscious person to death?" really need an answer?
     
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    i'm actually curious now about the fact that Rey recovered more quickly than he did (and by a lot).
     
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    I think because of those pesky human emotions called compassion and hope. How dare they stay her blade from the flesh of a mass murderer who she just spent a lot of time caring about! And probably still does to some degree.
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    I think Rey had just that in mind when she spared him. And she's not the type of person to kill a man when he's down. It's actually a contrast to when she last had Kylo indefensible in TFA. I have a feeling that the Rey from that battle would've gladly killed him.

    I think Rey is just more BAMF than Kylo. That's why she recovered quicker XD
     
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    Yeah because her vague caring for him outweighs the fact that he'll stop at nothing to bring the galaxy to his knees and will kill however many he needs to in order to accomplish that. Keep in mind that this is also the same person who lectured Luke Skywalker on morality.
     
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    Yeah, because human emotion is as logical and balanced as that. Even for Kylo, who believe it or not, is a human and has human moment in TLJ.

    She'd just learned Luke was responsible for creating Kylo Ren, and she's been wanting to save Ben Solo. So ofc she's gonna lecture him.
     
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    That's kind of the point I'm making here. She's lecturing him for not seeing the good in Ben back then which means that she'll turn him now. However, after that confrontation with Snoke and the Praetorians (that she honestly shouldn't have feasibly survived), she realizes that despite all the prior stuff that occurred, he's doubling down on all the monstrous acts he did and all the acts the First Order committed by assuming the place of Supreme Leader. Ben Solo was gone. He was permanently entrenched in the Dark Side of the Force and she let him live after seeing that he had become irredeemable with her own two eyes. That's what makes her a gigantic hypocrite. Her argument was that there was still good in him and she saw otherwise.

    You see, that's what made the Emperor irredeemable. He saw the corruption of the Senate but he didn't eliminate it for the good of the Republic, he exploited in order to rule with an iron fist. It's the fact that he holds ultimate power, is beholden to no one and still remains selfish and conceited. Just like Ben would still cause the galaxy boundless suffering in order to accomplish his aims.
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    I mean, while we're going down the "subversion is always good" road, why is Rey killing Ben while unconscious a mistake or immoral after him assuming power and stating his intent? Because it's dishonorable?
     
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    No he didn't. I really wish everyone would LISTEN to the characters and not just watch the pretty pictures.

    1. Luke saw NO LIGHT in Ben Solo. Very different from the good and conflict he felt from Vader. Even still, he stopped himself during a moment of weakness. He's not perfect. He saw the pain Ben would bring to people he loved. But he still stopped himself.
    2. Luke tells Leia "no one is truly gone" at the end before facing him.
    3. Luke says "I came to face him, but I can't save him". Luke knows he isn't the one that can bring Ben Solo back. Only Ben Solo can do that, maybe through Rey.

    Luke was not acting out of character either. I would totally disagree with Mark Hamill or anyone else. This was a great portrayal of what the impulsive, emotional, future looking Luke would do had he been training his nephew that had his heart turned black.
    Even Yoda makes fun of him for always looking to the horizon.
     
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    On the contrary, the end of the of the movie as Kylo was trying to communicate to Rey, she blocked him off as the door to Falcon closed symbolized this. I'm thinking Rey and Poe may have a better chance. There was a longer version of Rey and Poe sequence in the novelization of Episode 7. Coincidence?
     
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    She may still have hope for him, and remember her reaction and emotions to Luke when she confronted him about trying to Murder Ben? To kill him while he was unconscious to her would be seen as murder, and it's also possible she felt it would plunge her to the Dark Side. Of course I'm just guessing, lots of great answers in this thread.
     
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    It's not in Rey's character to attempt to kill someone when they have no opportunity to defend themselves, even if the ends may justify the means, it's not something that her character could bring herself to do. I suppose it speaks to her naivety, but hey, she is Rey from Jakku, she doesn't know the true state of the galaxy - she may certainly come to regret this, or maybe she would like the opportunity for him to truly pay for his crimes.

    Maybe IX will actually end with Kylo going on trial, and maybe he could be severed from the force completely and made to serve in some kind of prison where he can reflect on his past actions. There could even be a final scene of him in his jail cell, where he is talking to Han, Luke, Leia, Rey etc... but the audience know he is completely cut off from the force in a way that he could never even see a force ghost or anything. He would just have completely lost it.

    Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Ben Solo?
     
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    Except when the plot calls for you to stay on the ship, turn it around, and jump to hyperspace killing your enemy. Then it is ok

    Seems like a Droid could have done that.

    Now Rose saved him and we get one more chance to see Finn do nothing.

    Thank you for this Lucasfilm
     
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    So he was unable to see the light that OBVIOUSLY still existed in Ben?
     
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    Would YOU be able to destroy this piece of art?
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    Yeah...that's what I thought.
    Don't try to find plot holes when there's none.
     
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    Because Rey, Like Obi-Wan Towards Anakin On Mustafar, Couldn’t Bring Herself Do It, Or She Thought The Star Destroyer Would Explode With Him Inside
     
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    Because she just got done filling her bloodlust quota for the day with the Praetorian guards.
     
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    I agree with what some are saying, Rey isnt a killer...I have a feeling one of them will die for the other, and i have a feeling General Hux will be the culprit of that event. he is just biding his time before he can betray Kylo...but its tricky becuase he Kylo dies that way everyone says he is a vader knock of (but one could argue he then got his wish to be like Vader just not in the way he originally thought) or if Rey dies...people (including me) would be outraged the main heroin died...so god know what will happen
     
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    Because Killing Him Would Lead To The Dark Side
     
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    Because the writers couldn't do two things... tarnish Rey by killing an unconscious man, and getting rid of all the villains in a single episode. (Snoke, Phasma and Kylo Ren dead, with Hux a joke, can you imagine JJ's face if RJ handed him that to make EPIX? lol)

    Within the context of the movie, Rey will only kill to save her life and maybe the life of those she cares about (not some future maybe, but in the moment).
     
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