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SPECULATION Why doesn't Owen recognize C-3PO on Tatooine?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Trevor, Sep 20, 2015.

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Why doesn't Uncle Owen recognize C-3PO?

  1. He's faking it as to not tip off 3PO on his past.

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  2. It's a plot hole that's been overlooked.

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  3. He never actually knows C-3PO's name before he dies.

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    I'm not sure what you are asking here; so I will answer based on what I think you are asking...sorry if I misunderstood the question. From what I remember once I saw it few times I just put it in the back of my mind and just went back to watching the OT. So I really didn't pay much attention to Hayden's career, Natalie's speaks for herself, she's done well. Ewan does seem the most accessible...speaking of Ewan I hope we get a Obi-Wan movie someday.
    (obi-wan 2)
     
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    If we watch the clip from ANH, Threepio never actually introduces himself by name to Owen, and given the popularity of the design (that is apparently 20 plus years old for Anakin to copy), it makes sense Owen didn't think twice about him.

    The plot hole, therefore, only exists if somewhere between Luke taking the 2 droids to the garage and the morning, Owen checks on Threepio, and there's likely no time for that. The next time we see Owen after the morning is when he's.....well.....deep fried.
     
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    I actually never noticed that he didn't officially introducer himself but that pothole could easily exist because the movies seem to take place in real time
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    I don't agree with this reason.
    When Luke and Leia are born, Yoda and Obi-Wan both know they both are Skywalkers : they both should be powerful in the force.
    Yoda and ObiWan expect the babies to be one day the way to rebound the Jedi Order.
    ObiWan didn't become a hermit to avoid being killed: he did that in order to look after Luke.



    That is a serious problem, because Yoda perfectly knows Artoo: in the 3 last episodes of the 6th season of TCW ("Voices", "Destiny" and "Sacrifice"), Artoo accompanies Yoda when he travels through the ways of the force in order to learn how to become a force ghost. One should say once that Yoda acts like Ben Kenobi or Owen Lars, he pretends not to recognize Artoo, but Artoo surely recognizes him and should have blip-blopped when Luke and him find Yoda on Dagobah, far before one knows that little green gnome is actually Yoda.
     
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    Why would Owen remember C3-P0 - a droid - after . . . what? Twenty-two years? And considering that other protocol droids exist throughout the galaxy, why should he?

    In fact, why would Yoda recognize R2-D2, when there are other astrotech droids around? Why should he, especially since he has not seen R2 and 3P0 in over twenty years?
     
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    While this was my own thought, too, I do remember what type of Cuisinart my mom had when I was a kid, even though she had to get a new one about 15 years ago. And the types of cars they had about 25 years ago. And they didn't really have personalities and conversations with me. Maybe if there were a lot of Cuisinarts walking around I wouldn't recognize the model in the same way, but just a thought.
     
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    I just don't see the logic in believing that Owen should have recognized Threepio.
     
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    Well we all know it's because the movies were made out of order, and so these inconsistencies are to be expected as the movies were written in the order they were produced and not chronologically from beginning to end. I'm surprised there aren't more plot holes with how the movies jump from the middle of the story to the end, and then jumps back to the beginning again.

    At least with the sequels coming up we're only moving forward. We only have to worry about the OTHER stand alone movies that would more then likely be jumping around the timeline like a fat kid in a candy shop.

    As far as an in universe explaination goes, it's been like, what, how many years since the last time Owen saw Threepio? A good thirty-forty years or so. Could be explained that the man is simply human and forgot the droid entirely with age. He does spend his life farming moisture on a dust ball of a planet, he could be suffering from heat stroke for all we know. He IS an old man in a DESERT afterall. Not the greatest of retirement cottages there.
     
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    I gave earlier my car analogy to say maybe Owen couldhave recognised him. But, I do agree with the quoted posts above. I mean, I remember cars and Cuisinarts. But I wouldn't recognize every toothbrush I've ever had, and if droids are commonplace and all similar (or at least there are many similar to C3P0) then it would make sense Owen doesn't recognize him.

    And, yeah, moisture farmer probably has bigger concerns than "that droid looks familiar". He had a harvest coming up, after all. Also, droids are property in this galaxy -- they may have personality but they are not really people that you need to remember for social occasions. And my dad recognizes me, but I can cut a foot of hair off and he doesn't really see those little details, can't say he'd remember C3P0 in Owen's place.
     
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    I take it that he doesnt want Luke to know his past as he does in the film. He wants Luke to erase what R2D2 might have of the past. I was just watching ANH last night, so I can get a feel for R1 and I thought about it as well. also why Obi Wan doesnt really acknowledge treepio and artooie, but his scene with them is just saying he never owned a droid(which he doesnt). I think R2 knows who Luke and Leia is though. I think he meant to show Luke that video of Leia. Thats just what I think. I think in R1, R2 encounters Darth Vader and he remembers R2. Thats why in ANH he refers to the droid cause he knows what R2 is capable, hence him having the plans to the death star.
     
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    Ah, the old "I told you to forget it" and "Anchorhead memory erase" strategy. Yeah Owen seems to be more in the deny-all-knowledge camp already, no reason he would give any signs of knowing the droids even if he did recognize them.
     
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    Owen just saw Threepio as a memory of Anakin & tried to forget about him.
     
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    Where in "A NEW HOPE" did Obi-Wan say that he had not been called by his true name before Luke was born?



    After 22 years? Despite the fact that other protocol droids designed the same way as Threepio existed? Or that Threepio never told his or Artoo's actual names in Owen's presence, when they were being purchased?




    Hayden Christensen has made appearances for STAR WARS events in recent years. And he has also recently discussed his experiences working on the films.
     
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    Ben Kenobi: Obi-Wan Kenobi? Obi-Wan. Now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time. A long time.
    Luke Skywalker: You do know him then?
    Ben Kenobi: Of course I know him...he's me. I haven't gone by the name Obi-Wan since, oh, since before you were born.

    I think Old Ben was going a bit senile. Memory starts to go a bit wonky when you are out in the desert for 20 years.
     
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    What? No one mentioned Obi-Wan by his name some what . . . five minutes . . . . one hour before Luke and Leia were born? Who cares?
     
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    When you are talking ~20 years, adding 1 extra year for affect doesn't really matter. "Since before you were born" seems more long-time-ago than "oh, since you were about 6 months old" even though it's only a change of minimally 6 months. After a while you start to count and round to decades.
     
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    It's been ages since I've seen AotC, but doesn't 3PO have a dull gray exoskeleton in that one? That would help explain why Owen doesn't recognize him- gray protocol droid, gold protocol droid. It's been years since seeing or hearing him, there's no reason a moisture farmer who sees him as a tool more than a being would have any cause to immediately make a mental connection. And of, course, Owen never had a chance to experience any deja vu that could tip him off.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    To fill this plot hole, we need Watto in episode VIII being the boss of such industry. He just took Anakin's design left in Tatooine and commercialize it. Believe me, Watto has a great sense of business.
     
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    Easy Plot Hole Fix:

    In "Rebels" after a long battle in Tattoine against an inquisitor, Obi Wan erases Owen memories. TCHA TCHAM
     
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