Why Me and Friends Didn't like TFA

Well to be fair on the first one did we see Vader try to read anyone who wasnt family's mind? I mean that I have no problem let sliding...the rest aint bad so yeah i mostly agree

 

And you act like all of the other movies are not flawed? If you come into this lacking your imagination-thinking-cap on, you will be disappointed.

 

A star wars movie in 2015 cannot feel the exact same as a Star wars movie from 1977. Mostly new actors, new director, new techniques.I thought it did well at recapturing that feeling all the same.

The Original movies introduced new force powers etc as they went along. It's all open to interpretation.

 

What you call "brutally honest" are just opinions. "Darth Maul knows Episode 7 sucks" is not being brutally honest. Same with "Darth Sidious agrees Episode 7 is trash." If you are attempting to have a conversation about this sort of thing, you're not off to a good start.

There are a couple of things that you post that I understand having questions about. I know I did. However, I didn't instantly write them off. For instance, I think we have a LOT to learn about Rey and her past. She does, too! Something was at work with her that was not explained but it was deliberate. We will have to speculate and theorize until Ep 8 comes out. Reading minds? We just haven't seen it before. Freezing people? Same thing.

I'd invite you to explore these options rather than shoot them down. The fact that the movie left us with these mysteries is wonderful.

 

I love the movie. Rey is great. I don't make my mind up depending on what Darth Maul thinks, nor OP and his friends. This thread is redundant, please lock.

 

For me, she also developed her skills too fast, but she may just be that powerful...
Luke was able to pull the lightsaber from the snow without any kind of training for that...
About the mind trick, my understanding was that she took that from Kylo's interrogation... (But a lot (?) of people are theorizing that she was a previous Luke pupil...)

 

Episode 7 was awful.

Makes TPM look like Gone with the Wind.

 

There were too many problems with the TFA (many of which the OP corrected touched on) for it to be considered a good entry into saga.

Once you guys come down off that new Star Wars film high, most of you will realize exactly what I'm talking about. That TFA simply doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny.

 

Didn't baby Anakin magically fly himself into the droid control ship and destroy it with ZERO training? And like he could podrace at a million miles an hour? And luke learned to block blaster fire while BLIND in 3 tries...

Sorry I'm being a little snarky, I actually asked myself some of those questions too. But if you're going to come in here and defend Jar Jar and then say Ep 7 was bad you're going to get my attention.

 

Ok, that really did make me laugh. TPM looks like gone with the wind. Sure I can see that, with all that great acting and dialog. No line beats "that was so wizard Annie"

 

Takes years as a Padawan??? Like the 2min of training Luke got aboard the MF which allowed him to block blaster bolts from the training orb while blind folded then use the force to make an impossible shot that other pilots couldn't do with targeting computers? Anyway I believe we will find out Rey was trained by Luke and was a child prodigy. At least I hope so. If not the Jedi mind trick she did will make no sense as she shouldn't even know a skill like that exists. Remember Luke asking Kenobi how he did that to the stormtroopers.

 

All of these are completely flawed points because we have no idea of Rey's backstory. She doesn't know what her parents look like so her memory is clearly gone.

 

If Anakin was lucky that's even more terrible than if he was just strong with the force.

But I actually agree with you, I had this discussion about Rey with my friends and I was saying she shouldn't know how to do those powers. I still think the movie would have been better if she didn't defeat Kylo Ren outright in combat, that just diminishes him and his training. But on second watching I'm not so sure, there could be lots of reasons why she can do these things:
- She might have been trained by Luke as a little child but doesn't remember
- She might have learned about these things when resisting Kylo and then entering his mind
- Even if she didn't explicitly learn them when in his mind, she had been frozen by Kylo so she sees first hand that the force can make people do things against their will
- Obi Wan's voice is heard in her vision when she touches the lightsaber, so it may be that she is being led by him or others
- There has been an awakening. I know this wasn't really explained, but the force is somehow coming alive in her

Anyway, just a couple of theories. Sorry you didn't like the movie. I loved it!