Why the Amount of Vader's Screentime Was a Mistake

Lazy writing ?

I couldn't finish your own initial thread with 5 sentences because it was boring ...

 

Vader was used perfectly. Stop whining.

 

Agreed I don't know what the problem is, he showed up, JEJ never sounded better, he showed us he hasn't lost his force choking touch, I'm happy for sure with the screen time, I swear there would more whining if he got more than Rogue One the fact is he didn't it's history.

 

Some people will never be satisfied.
Any more screen time and you run the risk of Vader completely overshadowing the movie.
He had 2.5 brilliant scenes that tell you everything you need to know about how people feel about Vader in this world prior to ANH

 

Well put @RoyleRancor that's what I thought.

 

I really think the gift/curse of Star Wars is the fans' love of the lore.
We had so long without new Star Wars, so long without GOOD new Star Wars, that we filled in so many gaps ourselves.
Now non-canon EU stuff, fan-fictions, toys, games and our imaginations...it will be so hard to beat that stuff on film and for some, over coming that will not happen. It will never live up to what "their" Star Wars is.

It's a fine position to have, Star Wars is certainly worthy of such high regard and care.

 

Agreed it is.

 

I called months ago that Vader would have equal or less screen time than Captain Phasma did in TFA, and that no one should get their hopes up for an extensive Vader presence in the film. It was made clear that this was going to be a movie focused on new characters, and those new characters needed to have the main focus of the movie devoted to them, rather than be upstaged by classic characters. It's the same reason you got barely any Luke in Episode 7. You can't effectively set up new characters when the massively popular old ones are dominating the movie.

 

"You're lying to yourselves." Sigh you just do not get it. Those kind of statements get you absolutely no where. You keep making them though.

 

Vader's screen time was perfect.

 

I dont know what movies you've made before, but please allow me to doubt it was a 200 million $ budget blockbuster.

And now you are talking about the quality, which I have no problem with btw. If you find the movie bad its your right to freely express it on the internet. And I repect it. But that dosent mean the writers were "lazy". You can make terrible movies with great care (see: Zack Synder and Batman v Superman).
And its more than certain that noone was "lazy" during the production of Rogue One.

You perfectly described a scene the movie certainly didnt need. A quick scene of another pointless fanservice. Why not include a cameo of Obi-wan then? Or Luke? Or Lando?
They mentioned the Emperor a couple of times and that was more than enough imo (especially considering ANH also didnt have the Emperor at all beside mentioning).

 

I felt the same way when the Vader starts going havoc at the end. LOTS just popped right in my head. that was too much. I think they had the Vader scene just to juice it up. no reason as to why it was really needed but just to add to ANH. Tarkin was okay but didnt need the CG. The ending in general was cheezy. It should of been a novel in my opinion. R1 was over when they ask Bail to ask his "Jedi friend". not a big fan of the anthology but hey Disney found a way to sucker us into watching it. They are using the force for evil...

 

I guess everyone has different opinions. I thought there was too much Vader, with the way they used him anyway. Didn't much care for the scene with Krennic, or the horrible one liner that hasn't gotten any better on repeated viewings like some stuff I didn't like the first time. His appearance at the end would have been good enough. He really wasn't needed at all, but it was a nice bonus to see that action sequence. I wanted new characters, new villains, new things in Star Wars not always relying on what came before. Edit: So I was happy Vader's appearance was small and no emperor.

 

I think he was some what needed as was Tarkin to keep Krennic in his place. I looooved the Krennic character. I loved that we had a guy who was just bad as the villain in a Star Wars movie who wasn't a sith in disguise or something like that. Just a bad dude. And I loved how it showed his desire to climb the ladder by trying an end run on Tarkin by going to Vader.

The one liner felt like a hat tip to George Lucas coming on Mustafar...

 

People who point out continuity issues between R1 and ANH need to realize these movies were written and made 40 years apart. Speaking as someone who saw ANH in the theater in 1977, I can tell you that there was nothing like Vader at the time. He was mesmerizing, terrifying and awesome... for 1977. If they made Vader like that in 2016, people would be disappointed and say he was weak. The world has changed over the last 40 years. Movies have changed. Audiences have changed. Just take it for what it is - a movie - and enjoy it. Let the little things slide.

 

I generally try to not let limitations of the era determine too much how I feel about the movie unless it becomes such a glaring issue throughout.
Like in R1, the scenes with Tarkin and Leia will not bother me long run because it's just those scenes and it's the best that the technology has ever been used.

 

exactly this. i don't see a discrepancy because i grew up with the technology and the characters.
i like the brief scene of Vader being the Most Awesome Thing in the Galaxy™ if only so that people will stop complaining that Kylo Ren "looks" more powerful.

i think we had just the right amount of Vader in this. any more and we'd be going: Krennic who?