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Why the Amount of Vader's Screentime Was a Mistake

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Klai Kenobi, Dec 18, 2016.

  1. Darth Board

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    You didn't just disagree with me though, you mocked what I said as being somehow ridiculous and unbelievable, when it clearly is no such thing. In subsequent posts I took you to task for that, after all you staff members are always getting on to the rest of us about that sort of thing.;) Oh and both of us will have to let it go, not just me. I hope you enjoyed your beer, good day to you.
     
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    I feel that at this point, just before ANH where Vader has only 12 minutes of screen time, his appearance in Rogue One was perfect. He is the Emperor's monster, hunter in the dark, shark from Jaws. He appears to deal with unruly Imperials and solve the biggest problems. And, when he does, it leaves the impression - not just on us as viewers - but in-world as well.

    Additionally, the character of Darth Vader is one of the greatest legacies of Star Wars and Lucasfilm will protect it at any cost. They would use it, especially on screen, just enough to leave the audience always wanting more.
     
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    Since you mention the fact that my being a staff member was part of why you decided to start going at me over this, I don't want there to be any misunderstanding between us. Because, to be perfectly honest, I've not even been completely sure of what I posted that set you off in the first place. If I was truly that far out of line, then I'll certainly apologize - but not before I work out exactly what it is that I'm to apologize for.

    All I can find is this, in response to your claim that the events of Episode IV could have begun as long as "several weeks later" after the final moments of Rogue One:

    Is this what you consider to be "mocking what you said as ridiculous and unbelievable", as well as justification for taking multiple ad hominem shots in response? Or am I missing a different post of mine that offended you?
     
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    The lightsaber fights were that way because everyone using them during that era were heavily trained. Also, The Jedi/Sith can anticipate the next move with the force so the choreography works for that sort of dance you're referring to. It's organized/calculated and involves harassing a ton of concentration with the force. Plus, it looks pretty lol

    Lord of the Rings was a completely different atmosphere. Middle Earth is much, much easier to adapt onto a screen with practical effects then a futuristic film as ambitious as SW.

    Though I don't completely disagree with you, the character development was almost completely focused on Anakin Skywalker, but since that wasn't done very well and wasn't as interesting as it could have been we were looking to other good characters such as Kenobi to jump on board with.

    I can see why the depiction of Anakin did not impress you even though it didn't bother me half as much after the Clone wars series and books fleshed out the character more, but Yoda was spot on. That's also subjective though..
     
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    Yes, I am aware of that. Still, I think the fights are pretty bland and eventually boring to look at. There is no atmosphere or any sense of danger. Ironically, imo the only fight done well is when Obi-wan fights Grievous WITHOUT his lightsaber on the platform. I think there is some atmosphere during that fight. But other than that, its just flashy dance routine with great soundtracks. Maybe with better direction the fights could've been good though...
    I think the Hobbit trilogy is a perfect counterexample to that. They completely screwed up Middle Earth by making the exact same mistakes as Lucas did, resulting in dull looking fake piece of CGI fest...
    However, I could've picked any other example as well. Sam Raimi's Spider-mans, Matrix (although that looks a bit dated), Gladiator, POTCs etc.

    I agree with the clone wars's depiction of Anakin. I think his character was fleshed out well there. In fact, every non-Lucas related PT material tends to be good... The games, books, the Tartakovsky mini series etc. It's just the movies, that suck.
     
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    Wow, and he told me to just let it go, maybe you should have another beer or two Dekka. Oh and you being a staff member had nothing to do with anything, that was a joke - surely you saw the wink emoji. I've already explained why I initially replied - I found your post dismissive and your tone also suggested to me that you thought you had put forward an airtight rebuttal. My replies thereafter, were a mix of reflecting your initial attitude back at you and what I see as spiky banter, but which you see as ad hominem attacks. I'm done here good day to you.
     
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    Yes, this is over with...please move on.
     
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    Lucky Vader's not on this thread.
     
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