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SPECULATION Why was the Tantive IV over Tatooine?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Jordan Of Alderaan, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Jordan Of Alderaan

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    The first glimpse many of us had of Star Wars was that helpless Rebel cruiser falling prey to the collosal Star Destroyer which consumes the screen seconds later. This sequence takes place over Tatooine, but why?

    We don't know yet in the present canon where the plans were stolen from, but it strikes me as odd that they are heading past Tatooine in realspace, as this would suggest they haven't come far unless they came out of hyperspace prematurely (due to damage of some kind?).

    In James Luceno's Tarkin we learn that hyperspace travel uses a relay system by which travellers can be pulled back to realspace with the right equipment, but this would require Tatooine to be one of those relays and for the Empire to act very quickly.

    Were the plans on Tatooine? Were the plans aboard another vessel near Tatooine? Was Tantive IV damaged and forced to revert to realspace? Is it possible for ships to engage in combat in hyperspace?

    Discuss below!
     
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    I presume Leia was going to go find Ben Kenobi herself and get his help. However, she wasn't able to in time and so she hid the plans and a message in R2D2 to deliver to him. That was always my interpretation. She was going to try to maneuver through to Mos Eisley and find Kenobi.
     
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    Because Leia was going to talk to Ben, but she couldn't.
     
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    Ahh, I see! I'd always considered it that getting Ben involved was merely a spur of the moment attempt to get the plans somewhere. I figured maybe Leia had records of some description (be it memory or machine) of different people on various planets to go to in the case of an emergency.

    If the plan was to locate Ben in the first place, it raises a question of why. Obviously he has some great skills to lend to the Rebellion, but why not earlier and why whilst transporting one of the Rebellion's most valuable assets? Surely it would make more sense to drop the plans off at their terminal destination before making detours?
     
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    Looking for good ol' Obiwan I had presumed.
     
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    It had made a lightspeed jump after receiving the death star plans from the planet Toprawa, the Avenger pursued her to Tatooine Im not sure why Tatooine was chosen maybe because Leia could not keep the plans on her ship. I guess Bail & Obi Won still kept in contact around this time.
     
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    Is that in Legends though? The new canon could see a different tale!

    I watched the start of ANH last night to review this and found the following:
    •There was a battle when capturing the plans
    •Tantive IV reverts to realspace over Tatooine with the star destroyer hot on its tail
    •The plan was to pick Ben up as said above

    Apologies if this post now seems redundant! In order to try to save myself complete embarrassment, I will ask the following questions:

    Why did they choose then to pick up Ben when their current mission was so critical for the rebellion?

    How did they get hold of the plans in the new canon? Or is it, as Galen Marek said above, going to remain as in the Legends stories?
     
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    I always took it from the films, and just assumed that Kenobi was a well-respected leader during the time before the Empire. Which he was for the Jedi, and certainly was respected by the future Rebels. I just thought they wanted a strong Jedi to help them fight, someone who had experience in the previous war.

    As for the plans, I'm really hoping the show Rebels addresses this. Seeing them have a whole story arc that revolves around preparing for and then actually stealing the plans would be perfect.
     
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    General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire.
    I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed.
    I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it.
    You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan.

    So, basically it looks like Leia's ship grabbed copies of the Death Star plans via intercepted transmissions, and then headed to Tatooine, intending to pick up Obi Wan and bring both him and the plans back to Alderaan.
     
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    Well r2 was meant to have attached himself to the outside of Tantive Iv as it passed over the planet for the plans to be transmitted into his memory,
    Ah yes the distress call from Leia.
     
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    That was something that Brian Daley came up with for the radio dramatization back in the early '80s. Much as I've always thought he did a fantastic job on the whole thing, it's full of details like this that didn't come from Lucas.
     
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    Why was the Tantive IV over Tatooine?
    Because it would have made a really crappy movie if it was over Hoth.
     
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    Oh right I just thought it was a idea of how the plans got beamed aboard, as for lucas not commenting first sometimes others are needed to make the scene better had it been shown.
    Indeed a cold reception would be met when it arrived.
     
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    The mission was to fetch Kenobi. The Tantive IV intercepted the transmission along the way, just as they were to arrive at Tatooine. The real question is why were the Imperials sending the technical readouts of that battlestation in that manner, and why? It was already built. Shouldn't the Death Star plans simply remain on the Death Star and Coruscant? Beaming them willy-nilly all throughtout the galaxy seems kind of stupid.
     
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    In the title crawl we hear that there was a battle whilst gaining possession of the plans, so that would suggest the interception didn't go according to plan! It's also implied somewhat that grabbing the plans was an orchestrated event to some degree.

    You are right about storing the plans; you'd think they'd have the common sense to keep them secure!
     
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    Attention, spoilers for Rogue One...

    ...This is still a question for me after seeing Rogue One. Tantive IV did enter hyperspace after escaping from the Battle of Scarif, but why did it stop near Tatooine? And how did Vader follow them? Usually in Star Wars if you enter the hyperspace you are safe, but here it doesn't seem to be the case... And also, in the dialog between Bail Organa and Mon Mothma, Bail said that he will send Leia to recruit Obi-Wan, so this explains it a bit, but again, shouldn't Leia head for the rebel base first and then to Tatooine?? Idk...

    Sorry for bad English.
     
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    OBI-WAN KENOBI
     
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    Ah, good one, no chance of finding a exile jedi there.
     
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    Rogue One answers this - Bail knows where Obi-Wan is; R2 seems to know *exactly* where he is which indicates likely contact at some point between Bail and Obi-Wan (spin-off appearance for Jimmy Smits?).
     
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    There are many ways to intercept a ship that has entered hyperspace: a tracking device (which doesn't seem to have been used, unless the data had one built in), tracking a Holonet communication (I don't think this happened either), guessing all hyperspace routes and travelling there, pulling a ship out of hyperspace with an Interdictor. Vader may have used the force as well. Unless it's ever specified, we won't know.

    Leia travelled from Alderaan to join up with the Rebel fleet. Bail Organa had been tasked by Mon Mothma with bringing Obi-Wan back into action, and he chose Leia to carry out the task.
     
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