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Why Were The Younglings Killed And Not Turned Into Inquisitors?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Gechoman44, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Gechoman44

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    Anakin Was Ordered To Storm The Jedi Temple And Kill ALL The Jedi, Including The Younglings, But Here Is My Question:

    Why Were They Not Just Turned Into Inquisitors?

    I Mean, They Were Significantly Weaker In The Force Than The Other Jedi, And Hadn’t Learned Nearly As Much, So They Should Have Been Easy To Turn

    Plus, The Inquisitors Existed Not Long After ROTS, Due To The New Darth Vader Comic, So Why Did Palpatine Not See This Missed Opportunity?
     
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    Because he had to kill not just the men, but the women, and the children too.
     
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    Because it was his final test. Now Palpatine knew he could trust Anakin.
     
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    Because in all honesty when they are making the movies they don't consider the expanded universe. I know that they tell you that everything counts and it's all canon, but come on. We all know that's not true. whoever is making the latest movie does not care about what some cartoon or comic book says.
     
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    Because the literary purpose of this event is to "shock" the audience into how deeply Anakin has fallen. In fear of the unborn life of his own child, he slaughters hundreds of other children.

    It's actually why the prequels don't resonate, because there's really so little motivation and character building in the prequels, it's just chunky exposition and bad, outdated 90's CGI.

    The poor prequels, the canvas Lucas always wanted had too many paints, brushes and textures to play with and the films largely look like a kid exploring new tech while weaving a plodding tale with little humor or agility.

    But anyway, there's is no "logical" reason for the event, really part of the prequel's problems is the descent of Anakin just seems to happen overnight while Palpatine spins a tired yard while watching giant bubble-gum opera. Which I think was one of many Lucas' sly jokes at the fan's expense embedded in the prequels. The "Hill are Alive" montage, clearly another, there are just so many in those films where Lucas is laughing at us and just playing with his high-tech toys.

    The point is, the purpose of the scene is to "shock" you, so it's not meant to be logical or strategic, the whole story collapses in second if you insist on looking at the plot with such a critical mind.

    Anakin became evil in a false belief it would save Padme's life, so he killed lots of children.

    That's it, hope you enjoyed the show and don't forget those reams and reams of unwanted prequel merchandise on your way out.

    And my apologies to those who love the PT, I know this is snide, but truly, the purpose of the scene is one of shock, that partly works as shock because there is no truly tangible motivation for what he does. That's part of how you shock an audience.
     
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    Sidious convinced Anakkin that the jedi were so dangerous that to bring "peace" to the galaxy, the jedi must be exterminated. Anakin was so DERANGED at that point, that he was deliberately rationalizing the massacre of children -- to protect the galaxy from any future jedi. Sidious test to him to prove his loyalty and commitment to darkness was to go and do the absolute UNTHINKABLE, and Anakin did just that....
    At that point the most important thing for Anakin was for him to trust Sidious and for him to jump straight into the darkness....
     
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    He wasn't willing to take any chances by letting them live. He didn't know them, he hadn't groomed them, like he did with Anakin. They had Jedi teachings, and he wasn't willing to risk it that the teachings had taken hold in one of them. Easier to be safe than sorry.

    They weren't going to be last Force-Sensitive's ever born, so he doesn't lose anything.
     
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    because anakin took his assignment too literally.
     
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    I'm pretty sure he had to kill them to fully immerse himself in the Dark Side. I believe he didn't want to kill them. That's why in the Mustafar scene you can see tears in his eyes. He didn't want to do any of the things he did, but in order to fully immerse himself in the Dark Side and have the power to "save" Padme.

    It's like Kylo Ren when he killed Han and when he tried to kill Leia. He didn't want to kill them, but he knew that in order to get rid of his conflict and fully enter the Dark Side, he had to get rid of his past.
     
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    1. The war had reached a point of total chaos, and it would be very difficult to orchestrate a kidnapping plan in the middle of all that

    2. Palpatine manipulated Anakin to be livid with the Jedi

    3. Anakin might not know how to recruit people to the Dark Side when he just joined 25 minutes ago :)

    4. Palpatine told him to.
     
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    There's also the other in-world explanation in that "Inquisitors" didn't exist in the franchise, EU or otherwise. Those weren't invented until years after ROTS came out.

    In-universe, to the OP, I took it as Anakin following Palpatine's orders, which as Snazel said was meant to shock us that he would even follow orders as horrifying as murdering children.

    Also, @Snazel, George Lucas circa 1972: "Emotionally involving the audience is easy. Anybody can do it blindfolded, get a little kitten and have some guy wring its neck." He was being facetious in response to critics of THX 1138 who called it cold and unemotional, that it's easy to manipulate the audience into disliking someone or feeling something, but I don't think he seriously meant that he would ever do such a scene to telegraph to the audience. It was a parody of what a hack writer would do. But flash forward thirty years and that's essentially what he came up with!
     
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    The Inquisitors were never an original part of Star Wars under Lucas. We only see Inquisitors appear once Disney took over the company. While their outfits and helicopter lightsabers look cool, I never really bought into the idea of dark-side Force users running around doing what Darth Vader should be doing. It seems to contradict Grand Moff Tarkin’s statement about Vader being the “last of his religion,” and implied that Tarkin didn’t really believe in the Force.
     
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    Why would you assume that every youngling was weaker in the Force? At age nine, Anakin was already strong with the Force. Also, I've been aware of the Inquisitors, long before Disney took over Lucasfilm. And why would you assume that any youngling not killed by Anakin could or should eventually become an Inquisitor under Palpatine? How did you come to this conclusion?
     
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    It was his final test to prove he had turned 100%. The clones could have stormed the temple without Anakin but Sidious needed that proof that he had forsaken everything that he previously valued. Also as noted previously it is for the audience as well as they now have no doubt of who they should hate and how far he had fallen.
     
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    good post.

    Palpatine had won even before he gave order 66, and he knew that he was always going to win. He didn't care about Force sensitive younglins.. probably wasn't even bothered about them being killed at all as nothing was a threat to him - especially with Anakin by his side.

    He just needed Anakin to fully jump off that ledge.. and ordering the death of younglins was a pretty damned decisive way of doing it that would leave no way back for little Ani.
     
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    One of those kids lives and you've still got the the Jedi running around. Palpatine said if even one was left alive it would be endless civil war. You can't just kill someone's teacher and surrogate family and think all is going to be well. If they get away, the chances are there that you're going to see their face again, chopping off your head and saying, "That's for my teacher!" Try to turn them into Inquisitors and there's the chance one day you're looking at a knife protruding from your chest with an Inquisitor standing behind you whispering "That's for my teacher" in your ear. That's pretty much exactly what happened with Luke. Failed to kill the kid and it came back and threw him down a hole. This is why battles in ancient times were always a massacre. Leave survivors, especially kids, and you're leaving the door wide open for the avenger to come strolling through. Potentially with a brand new army of Jedi.
     
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    I Don’t Think Palpatine Thought That Would Be A Problem, The Grand Inquisitor Was A Temple Guard And I’m Pretty Sure The Fifth Brother Was A Jedi Too
     
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    Absolutely.
    Palpatine is about to build a totally new Empire to replace the Republic. Completely eliminate the Jedi, including the younglings, is a way to start an era of tranquillity, till the next generation of FS users gets up and is turned into Inquisitors.
    But right now, the Empire is to be constructed.
     
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    I'm confident that was George Lucas' reasoning for Palpatine. Palpatine basically says it in dialogue form, then the Jedi and kids he failed to kill are the ones that come back and kill him. When other writers come in the door is opened for some acts which run contrary to what's been previously established. I guess at that point we just start rationalizing things. Maybe Palpatine got overconfident with those guys. But it seems pretty clear to me at least that the reason for killing every last Jedi was to make sure the "enemy" was eradicated, root, stem and branch leaving no door opened for a potential return. It's like Kylo Ren in the ST; same idea.
     
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    They’re all former Jedi, I believe. Which was your initial point, right? Here’s some stock to replenish their numbers. Waste not, want not. No one lives forever . . . probably.

    But I think the reasoning has already been hit on in this thread. Palps was putting all his eggs into the Anakin basket. This was his handpicked apprentice. Having him prove his loyalty by performing the most un-Jedi task imaginable, was more important than collecting more creeps for his personal goon squad. The Inquisitorius had a role, but they were largely disposable thugs. Vader though, that was his ‘chosen one’, so to speak.
     
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