Will Rian Johnson's Career Ever Recover?

if people saw a movie and moved on...then we would not all be here now would be

 

I was going to ask this same question, but apparently I've been put on the block list. That seems like an extreme reaction to me, but whatever. Maybe I'm weird, but I have yet to put anyone on the ignore list, even those I disagree with most of the time. I have no issue seeing an opposing opinion and sometimes I actually agree with some of them on other topics. You know we've made it big around here when people publically banish us to their ignore lists! Why do some get so mad when others say they don't like TLJ or RJ's writing? It's just a different opinion, but you'd think we insulted their mothers or something.

I can assure you that I have never ever tweeted anything at Rian Johnson or wished him physical harm. I don't want him dead, I just don't want to watch anymore of his movies! I don't have twitter, but my spouse does. I've looked at some SW related things on there and yes, there are some crazed loons that do tweet some nasty things to RJ and Co. That's way overboard to me. I have no interest in harassing the man on social media. This is the only SW related message board I post on and talk about not liking TLJ.

 

There's a great difference between talking about Star Wars and treating it like a religion. When your opinion of TLJ causes people to dismiss Johnson as a film maker outright or the troll twitter accounts, or the death threats....its just not the same as simply talking about it. The same can be said for those who like it but put SW as some sort of religion.

 

RJ is a talented filmmaker, but IMO what’s probably most valuable about him (and will grant him enormous success in his field) is his friendly, warm and elegant attitude to the most absurd criticism from SW fans. Every time he is asked about negative fan reactions he is nothing but kind and understanding. People who work with him think he’s always polite and KK seems to get on with him (and she is, according to Spielberg a woman who likes her directors to treat their crew with respect). What I’m trying to say is that, as with any other jobs, being successful as a filmmaker is not only about the job, or about talent, but mainly about your work ethic and your good attitude. RJ seems to be brilliant at the latter, as JJ is and people KK likes to work with.

Also in this thread I’m not quite sure if certain people are secretly wishing RJ demise as a director rather than questioning his future as such, which I cannot help finding unkind... And why would I sabotage the future work of a director just because he made a film for SW i did not like? I mean, everyone is free to do what they want but what would be the point in that?

 

Considering the supposed success in the box office, we have to consider that some of the people who paid amongst the 1.3 billions dollars felt completely crooked and won't buy the DVD or ever see Solo or ... yes ... maybe ep IX.

So I paid for this too and believe me I won't do it again.

The "real" comparison could match for DVD and Blue Ray with TFA but the box office score included many many people who absolutely didn't like this thing some people call a movie.

 

Can we stop being so dramtic about TLJ? This a definition of a film:

Is it a series of moving pictures? Yup. Was it shown in a cinema. Uh-huh. Does it tell a story? Mhm. So it's a film.

Now to the topic of home release sales - studios don't care that much for home video. Well, they kind of care, because they are like Mr. Krabs and they like money, but the revenue generated by home realases has always been a small beer when compared to box office revenue and nowadays with more and more people moving to streaming services they are even less important. Sure, home video releases can cause a studio to consider a sequel (like with Edge of Tomorrow) but if a film made $1.3 billion then the home release is just a cherry on a cake. I get that - if I dislike a film I also very often try to devalue it by some silly means, but wouldn't it be nicer if we just move on with our lives and focus on what we like instead?

 

The often telling a story is a pertinent definition.

I'm just saying the BO numbers are not at that moment a real argument.

Pissed off fans paid too.

 

Every movie-going experience entails the risk we won't like the movie we are going to watch as much as we would want to, but still we make the conscious decision to buy the ticket, watch the movie and take that risk. Sometimes film-makers get it wrong, but I would not say that LFL's and Disney's intention was to cheat the audience with a bad product. There are a lot of rubbish films out there, and TLJ may not have been to the taste of everyone but it was not a bad product.

 

Will his career recover? From what?

You didn't like TLJ, but there are a lot of people who do (CinemaScore = A). The critics liked the movie (91% on RT with an average score of 8.1/10) and the movie made 1.3 billion dollar at the box-office.

Count in that Looper & Brick are loved by the critics and his Breaking Bad episodes are viewed by many as the best of the show.

The man will be on a lot of studios lists to work with when he becomes available.

 

I don't know. For me, I think there needs to be signs of his career going down the drain before anyone needs to worry about whether or not it will recover. As of yet, I haven't seen any signs to say it is going down the drain.

 

Will it recover from what? Pissing off a bunch of whiny fanboys because he didn't cater to their dumb fan theories and their narrow-minded idea of what Star Wars needs to be?
Please.

 

Nope. Rian Johns(t)on and his career seem like they'll be a-okay to me. I'd like to think that Lucasfilm would base their decision on more than a fanbase that gets divided every other movie.

 

Rian Johnson's career at the moment will be fine, TLJ was a commercial success so the big bosses are happy and they are the ones who hire and fire.

The thing is though, I think TLJ was always going to be a Box office hit after the success of TFA, that and the fact that the ending of TFA was a perfect set up and cliffhanger for TLJ. Fans were desperate to see what happened next.

Now if Rian Johnson was directing Episode 9, with the divide over TLJ, I do then think that it would possibly damage Rian Johnson's career and I don't think that it would have had the same success as TLJ.

 

I like "Fly" because I like "intimate theater". I kinda wanted Ahch-To to be like a intimate theater but it wasn't to me...

 

His career will be fine, so will the next trilogy he's been tasked to deliver!

 

@Dr Jerrone you have a personal vendetta to vote me down? 6 negative votes with dislikes within 1 minute sounds like a revenge voting. But why?

 

I think he will do well with his own trillogy. TLJ definitely had it's problems. I think most people just have issues with anything new especially after EU was erased. That divided the fan base quite a bit. For me, I don't like his over use of humor. It's appropriate to relieve tense moments, but there comes a point where you can't take the serious parts seriously. But he revolutionized Star wars. He broke the mold which I think was needed after the redundancies of TFA. It was his first, KK evidently thinks he has potential with his own seperate storyline, and I'd have to agree.

 

I don't know where he will go with his new trilogy or if he will have success or not, and I am nobody to have a real statement and a right opinion.
But I think there is a point here. He has made a 1,3 billion movie, but i think it's fair to say he has made 1,3 billion because is a Star Wars movie, as a blockbuster and a huge publicity.
The real test will be the first movie of the new trilogy, and another real test will be the first movie after Star Wars movies.
Probably he will have big budgets and publicity for new projects and will have no problems with that. Probably he will made more billion movies, but it doesn't mean will be good movies. In fact, most of the billions movies ara blockbusters without soul, easy to forget.
If he continues with Looper style he probably will have success.
If he continues with Brothers Bloom style probably he will not. Who knows.
Just my opinion.

 

You were not alone during that period of time and it mostly had to do with you saying that someone else was calling you a terrorist simply for using the term fanatic. Now it's possible that it's just a cultural difference based on location but I've rarely heard the term used in that context and clearly the person using it was not using it in that context.