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Will Rogue one and other anthology movies begin with a crawl?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Konopka25, Aug 24, 2015.

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Will Rogue one and other anthologies begin with a crawl?

  1. Yes, it's Star Wars it has to

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  2. No, the crawls should be reserved for the main movies

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    It probably will... but I don't think it should. With the "Episode VII" removed from all of TFA's marketing, the lines between saga films and anthology films are already a little too blurred for my liking.
     
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    First of all i feel the need to give my congratulations to the creators of this great site, and for a first time i make a comment here!
    Second yes, i think a crawl is needed beacuse its star wars....And something else:We still count the ewok movies as star wars movies any more? I hope yes....
     
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    Welcome to the Cantina!

    The Ewok movies aren't canon, but if you can find them there's nothing keeping you from watching and enjoying them. :)
     
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    I dont understand why the ewok movies count as a non-canon my friend,beacuse even wookipedia count them as canon.
     
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    It doesn't. For instance, in the article for 'Caravan of Courage' they point out that the movie is not a part of continuity.

    Now here's a question. What if Rogue One started with a crawl, but with different theme music? Technically, the main Star Wars theme is Luke's theme. That wouldn't fit here.
     
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    I still believe that the ewok movies take place before RoJ.With a different theme? hmmmm i dont now.
     
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    Eh, I'm kinda torn on it.

    On one hand, yeah, it's a Star Wars film. Since coming back from the days of Flash Gordon and the Spaghetti Westerns, the crawl has been a staple of the franchise and it can't be used anywhere, ever, for anything, without someone citing it as "Star Wars-inspired". It'd be like Homer Simpson not saying "D'oh!" for an entire season. It's a weird thing to expect.

    But on the other hand, Rogue One is supposed to tear Star Wars apart and make some fundamental changes. In essence, it's trying to grow the franchise up a little bit. So maybe it should use some other modern conventions? Like, I imagine (as stated above) a SWTCW approach, where a narrator reads out the crawl as an introduction. But, maybe it could be read out by a gruff soldier's voice? Like, "It's been some time since the Empire came in. Everything's a bloody mess. Etc etc etc.". Imagine that read out by a Rebel soldier, his teardrop helmet covering his eyes as he chews on a cigar, cowering behind a mud wall, clutching a blaster rifle. Or maybe that's too silly, or too dark. I'm not gonna work out the details here, but you get my picture, right?

    So I think it depends on just what kind of movie we're going to get. Because yeah, it's a Star Wars film. If it's going to follow the conventions of one, it should give us a crawl like any other SW film. But if it's going to break from the norm and give us something a little more adult, then it should give us something adult on all fronts.
     
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    I don't know if "grow the franchise up" is appropriate for Star Wars. I don't think that's the attitude being taken by Lucasfilm and Disney, especially after considering the content across much of the franchise. It is trying to add some variation and diversity to the storytelling, though.

    I guess the question is if the opening crawl is a Star Wars style marker or is it necessary to the story. Some people like that feeling of being dropped into the story as it's already unfolding. The crawl helps with that.
     
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    Welcome aboard! :)
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    Yeah, except for the fact that between the PT and TCW, it's appeared in far more onscreen SW stories that DIDN'T feature Luke than in those that did.
     
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    I always think of The Force Theme as "Luke's Theme"... is the main titles theme officially supposed to be Luke's?
     
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    Yeah, the main title is also Luke's Theme. It's used in the prequels, but very rarely since he's not in it. The Force Theme is Obi-Wan's I believe.
     
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    That's so weird, if true. The Force Theme plays during Luke's moment watching the binary sunset. And also when Luke is delivered to Owen and Beru. I've always associated it with Luke.
     
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    Luke's theme also plays during the end of ROTS. One of the few times in the trilogy. But as they were recreating that binary sunset shot, it makes sense to use the same music.

    Originally, John Williams composed different music for the binary sunset in ANH, but Lucas wanted the Force theme instead. I think it was a good call. :) Also, I highly recommend the podcast called 'Star Wars Oxygen,' which is all about the music of Star Wars.
     
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    I don't have an opinion on whether they SHOULD have a crawl, but based on the fact that nuCanon stuff, even stuff without the main characters (like "Lost Stars" and "Aftermath") all have crawl-style openings, I suspect they WILL.
     
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    I voted no because:

    1) The release of the anthologies and main films are fairly close together (some will be about 5 months apart). Now this may sound silly to an attentive Star Wars fan, but many people might get confused if the anthologies between the main story line have the same opening. In other words: they will exclude the crawl to differentiate it, as many are saying. But the decision serves a purpose, for the sake of the general audience.

    2) Just look at the logos. The TFA logo is dominated by the Star Wars name. The Rogue One logo is dominated by its own title. Again, it's to differentiate between anthology and main story. They will likely carry that mentality into the films opening.

    3) Many have mentioned the Clone Wars, but Star Wars Rebels has no special introduction. That might be setting a precedent.

    With that said, I'd be giddy if they had it, understanding if they don't and rolling my eyes if people start raging about it.
     
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    Considering the video games and comics have crawls, I would assume they would as well. The crawl is iconic.
     
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    It had a cinema release here in the UK, one of the first films I saw on the big screen. :)
     
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    I doubt they are going to have a crawl. What will it be? Episode 3.5? lol

    No, Kathy said that they are separating this from the SAGA so highly doubtful

    I just hope they don't have ROGUE ONE a Star Wars fricken story in the actual opening credits of the film. I am ok with you calling a SW story but no in the film, lol It would feel like "Caravan of Courage", lol
     
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    There just won't be an episode title. Just the Star Wars logo flying back and then Rogue One.
     
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    I agree, they have a challenge differentiating the Anthology stuff from the serial stuff. I really hope we get a Rogue One teaser before TFA, but so as not to confuse, i wouldn't be surprised one bit if they don't have one. A whole lot of people would see ANY Star Wars trailer before a Star Wars movie as an advertisement for the "next one" chronologically in the Star Wars Universe and not just the next one for US. I suspect there will be some kind of big marketing push to spell that out. But then again, my guesses on how disney was going to market TFA have not been so hot.
     
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