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Will Rogue one and other anthology movies begin with a crawl?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Konopka25, Aug 24, 2015.

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Will Rogue one and other anthologies begin with a crawl?

  1. Yes, it's Star Wars it has to

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  2. No, the crawls should be reserved for the main movies

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    I'm guessing they'll stick with the aesthetic traditions of the past. Hopefully they can make up for playing it safe there by introducing narrative, plot, and character elements which take more risks and enrich the GFFA overall
     
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    Mumble, mumble... On the one hand, even the comics have a page that is the equicalent of a crawl.

    On the other, I'd like to see the Stories differ from the Episodes so much, if only to help the casual viewer in placing the movies in particular boxes in their heads. Opening crawl? Oh, it's an Episode. No opening crawl? Oh, it's a Story. Simple and clean.

    I have no strong feelings towards the opening crawl or the fanfare, to be honest. OK, I love the fanfare music, yes, but at times, I'd like to see a SW movie that sets the tone from the very first second. Which, seeing that RO is a war (and hence, dark) film, such a joyful fanfare in the beginning might not be appropriate. I voted no, if only to help the Stories be their own Thing from the Episodes.
     
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    its a part of the star wars movies and always has been. so yes.
     
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    I feel it should have the traditional opening, guard of honor etc. since it's a stand alone mini prequel to ANH and is so close chronologically to it. There are way too many familiar elements, locations, that lead up to ANH for it to change the opening. It would be awkward. You have a Death Star in the movie and you would prologue differently? If it were a spin-off series of movies like let's say "The Adventures of Jar Jar" then yeah I would say you could and should go for something different.
     
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    No crawl for the spinoffs, it waters it down.. especially if they're all gonna stink as much as Rogue One
     
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    Then what would you want...a scrawl needs to happen to some extent especially now that the prequel comics have been shut down because we know absolutely no canon information any of the new characters so the crawl would jump right in as if we are watching a story unfold in real time.
     
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    Yes. For the sake of commenting, and that it's happened in pretty much every version of Star Wars I've ever seen in some fashion, either text or spoken audio.

    Ha! :D
     
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    If no crawl then fail.

    Sorry but if It's Star Wars, there's a crawl. Period.

    I understand they want to distinguish these as different from the saga but come on.

    Change the color of the font to white or the 'end credit' blue. Problem solved.
     
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    I agree 100%, This is Star Wars... that opening crawl IS Star Wars... when you watch a SW movie for the 1st time or the 100th time that opening jump and crawl is what excites us....

    Rogue one needs the crawl
     
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    Kathleen Kennedy finally hints that Lucasfilm is having internal debate about this.

    I feel the crawl matches the tone of the saga films. Rogue One intentionally has a different tone and should thus have a different introduction, if any, one that serve the film, not the fans.
     
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    As much as I think it's nice to distinguish the Anthologies from the Episodes, they're still the same family.

    I think a Crawl is needed to fill the viewers in to what's happening.. especially since we do not really know any of these characters. I think it would be a mistake to take away the iconic STAR WARS CRAWL for the sake of strategically making the anthologies 'different'.

    The viewer should be able figure out that the Anthologies are different because of the film and story, not the crawl. Quality is key.
     
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    all movies need to fill viewers in to what's happening, they just do it in different ways: think about the introduction of "I, Robot" for example. Some movies do voice overs, or characters give exposition via dialog.

    The sage films crawl is a simple way of filling the audience in, for lack of better word, it's lazy. Or direct, depending how you see it. I love the crawls because it's so simple, most movies can't pull it off because most movies take themselves more seriously. The saga films are fun and intend to be from the start.

    Rogue One will be great, but I don't think they are going for a light fun tone like the saga films.
     
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    I started a wager in the Cantina Casino that goes along with this thread. Go on over and check it out if you want to lay down some credits on whether there will be a crawl in Rogue One
     
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    At Celebration Europe, Kathleen has stated, while they are still in discussion, she is doubting there will be a crawl.
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    I think the people working on it should decide if they have something to say in advance of the movie. They know what's in the movie and what not. I don't believe in rules like, crawls are for the saga or something like that. It doesn't even need a special Anthology rule set, every single film is on its own and should make its own decision.

    Basically the whole premise of R1 is simple enough to not need a crawl and we know the gffa pretty well around that time period. The last thing we need ais an unnecessary crawl just for the sake of it.
     
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    a crawl is Very important for a star wars film and it feels very weird that there is a probable doubt on the part of Disney or Lucas film on wether or not they should keep that "long text thing" before the film starts ...:confused:

    take a moment and think about how they would have to re-arrange the music if there is no crawl....
    take a moment and think about when exactly does the story start .... does the story start before of after you see the crawl?
    Make the crawl text blue instead of yellow in order to distinguish but dont think you can give yourself the right to modify an important cinematic technique given the fact that a lot of the fans let alone some of the execs do not fully understand it.
     
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    I LOVED that fake-out crawl during the panel...that would be something refreshing and cool..
     
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    short answer. yes
    while there is a difference with the saga and the anthology/spin offs, it is a tradition to star wars that george fought for, and would be a nice hat tip to him if it was to be carried on.
     
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    I doubt the movie would begin with a battle, but I have to say, I'd love an (obviously less graphic, in this case) opening similar to Saving Private Ryan's Omaha Beach scene. Just throw us right into the chaos, no opening crawl. That would be quite different for a Star Wars movie, and IMO, quite gripping.
     
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    I've heard the rumor that it won't open with a crawl, but I hope it does. It's what we've come to expect, not to mention I think it's a really cool way to set up the story.
     
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