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Will The Mandalorian be great with or without The Child?

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Adam Burt, Dec 14, 2020.

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    Been feeling emotional at the end and exctiement as well. What will The Mandalorian do next or there be another series?, enjoyed the show and two because one of my favourite duos
     
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    Going to miss Grogu and the whole relationship between him and Din developing but I've really been wanting focus on Din and bounty hunting or madalorian stuff than everything centered around Grogu. Very interested to see where season 3 goes now.

    Bo-Katan possibly turning into a foe and mandalore stuff seems to be set up. That sounds great to me! I hope Din travels to Mandalore in the first episode
     
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    The kid will be back at some point, I have zero doubts about it. He may be a jedi, but he is also a Mandalorian. I like Din so far, but I hope this allows them to focus on his character for a while. I don't think they had to push out Grogu of the show to develop Mando more, but it could be a great way to do it. And just imagine how satisfying it will feel to see them reunited again!

    I also remember writing that I hoped TROS would focus on developing Kylo Ren as a villain, "now that Snoke is out of the way", so we never know I guess. But I bet there is still tons of good stuff on the way.
     
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    I see this a lot. Do people really want to see The Mandalorian changing Grogu's diapers every episode? The Mandalorian is a trained warrior similar to that of a samurai. These two seasons were heavily borrowed from Lonewolf and Cub. Lonewolf is a master samurai. On his hellish path with his son, he also trained his son to be strong and told him we can both die at any given moment. Along their path, they came across other mercenaries and colorful individuals. You can't just have a show with Mando and Grogu playing house on the Razor Crest.

    This show is great for a reason. My friends that wouldn't know a Star Wars easter egg if it slapped them in the face are watching this show. My friends who don't know who Bo-Katan is are watching this show. It has transcended Star Wars Geeks and nerds. someone, please explain to me what type of show we would have with just Mando and Grogu traveling the galaxy... I'd really like to know.

    do people want to see Mando and Grogu moisture farming on Tatooine? With Greef and Cara visiting every now and then? Hey, Mando how's Grogu doing? How is this farming gig working out for you? @DarthSnow ( where are you dude in all of this? I hope all is good bro)

    Owen Lars didn't want Luke associating with that crazy old hermit. Owen and Beru met a fatal end if they did not Luke would have remained on that farm. There would be no Jedi master Skywalker. the death Star would be destroying the galaxy as we know it.
     
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    If my post made it seem like I wanted them to focus on Grogu, I apologize. I meant to say that I hope the show can have a greater forcus on Mando/Din for now.
     
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    Grogu is great, but if Mando has to keep protecting him every episode it'll get predictable. I hope we get spend most of next season without that.
     
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    I think it allows Din's character arc to continue developing and growing apart from Grogu. That bond with Grogu will always be there. We know that. It gives Din an opportunity to advance who he is. Up to this point, it's been about The Watch Creed, being a bounty hunter and protector/father of the child. Now, he doesn't have that. We will see how he grows in this next season, and I can't wait. Just wondering how and if they will utilize Grogu.
     
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    That's been one of my biggest issues with the show is, since acquiring the Child, Din hasn't changed much.
    Part of that is the fact that the Child can't grow up over the course of one season because of how slow he ages.
    The other part is they just didn't write him to do that to play up the Baby Yoda hype train.

    Now Din can become a real character with wants and needs outside of their relation to Grogu.
     
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    This is a tough call for me. Obviously Grogu is awesome and adorable, but The Mandalorian is about, well, the Mandalorian.

    Some shows in the past have bowed to popular demand and shifted focus to breakout characters - like how Family Matters basically became the The Steve Urkel Show. And while these may have been commercially successful, I think it cheapened the show quite a bit.

    So let me put it this way: I would love to see more Grogu if his appearances are organic and integral to the story. But if keeping Grogu around would require The Mandalorian to become The Grogu Show and just focus on him because he’s so cute - at the expense of their original vision for the show - I would rather they let him go.
     
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    I think it won’t matter.

    The series revolved around protecting a character with absolutely no background or history. Its just there making stupid noises & occasionally using the force.

    Some of the more interesting episodes left Grogu out entirely.
     
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    It's interesting that the Believer (Episode 15), had no Grogu. Narratively, it made sense. It was about Din's character development as well as Mayfeld's. However, when you look back at the Season, maybe it also allows us let go of Grogu for an episode. May have been done intentionally.
     
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    “Will the mandalorian be great without the child?”
    That entirely depends on the definition of “great.” If one wants good stories and heavy action, I can honestly say the Mandalorian was ONLY good when the guy dropped off baby yoda to daycare in order to fulfill the story. The baby slowed him down.
    Apart from the emotional ending where Mando takes off his helmet in front of Grogu, I didn’t really see an increased bond in season 2.
    So I believe that the show will actually improve without Grogu.
    Now, on a marketing and merchandising standpoint, this show will not survive without the little green cash-cow. I was puzzled and intrigued when Luke Skywalker carried Grogu away in the season finale. What does that mean for the show as a whole?
    My personal opinion is that there is no way the show is abandoning Grogu. if there is one thing I know about Disney, it is that they never walk away from free money.
     
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    As much as I love Baby Yoda, about half way through season 2 I was already feeling like they needed this thing to end. They could not go on forever with Mando trying travelling here and there trying to find a Jedi to give Grogu to. I think there is plenty for them to shift focus to - Is Mando going to help Bo Katan re-establish Mandalore? Will they be at odds with each other? Will Mando care at all about Mandalore? Will Mando give up his belief that he can never take off his helmet, and become more like other Mandalorians that take their helmets off all the time?
     
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    Sorry I'm arriving Luke-Skywalker-fashionably-late to this party.... took me awhile to locate your signal. :D

    No, you can't. And I don't think that's what we got -- Mando and Grogu playing house. I know you're being facetious but that along with the rest of your post made me realize a couple things... probably about to go off on a tangent so bear with me.

    Oh, the missed opportunities. Where was the training, Din? How did you stimulate and grow that little green mind? The quick answer might be "there wasn't much" but I don't really believe that to be the case. Don't get me wrong, I love what we got with Grogu and Din. And certainly the child will be ever thankful for being lucky enough to fall into the hands of this particular bounty hunter. But I don't think it was until they both met Ahsoka that Din realized what exactly he was to this kid. Before that Mando was always just more of a "lead by example" mentor and I think he showed a strong moral code to the kid, absolutely. But it could be argued there wasn't enough verbal instruction, enough intimate teaching lessons...

    Yes there was a lot of "don't do that, stay here, put the red wire where the blue wire was (and yes I'm still laughing about that)" but there wasn't enough why involved. Why do we need to hide from these people, Dad? Why do we need to disintegrate those Jawas, Dad? Why can't I eat those tasty little frog eggs? .... I'll call it new dad syndrome, or something, because it takes awhile for anyone suddenly thrust in that role to find the right teaching methods, and a way to connect. To Din's credit he did find a way to connect after some coaxing from Ahsoka, but unfortunately I think the lesson with passing the control knob back and forth was essentially the only true lesson we ever witnessed (please tell me otherwise if I'm forgetting some things).

    The greatest thing Din ever gave the child was compassion and protection (and yes plenty of entertainment and excitement) and I think that alone will positively shape Grogu's future, but I still wish there were some more "life lessons" along the way. I was looking forward to that next season, but now it seems we won't have that opportunity. Now lets see if I can reel this thing back to relevance..

    I think the relationship between Din and Grogu was almost more for Din's sake than the little green guy. I don't think this series would be anywhere near as interesting without the interaction between the two, I'm glad we got to see that for an entire 2 seasons, and I believe it has built a strong foundation for the show going into its third. Hopefully Din remains the man he was when he was caring for the kid, I can't see him regressing -- but who knows.

    I don't know what the future holds for Din but I don't think its bounty hunting, not anymore. Hopefully we get to see the same kid-saving, village-protecting, monster-hunting Mando moving forward... and oh yeah. Now he potentially carries the fate of a shattered planet in his hands too. But hey, no pressure or anything.
     
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    Seeing some buzz here that the focus on Grogu actually detracts from Din Djarin's character development. To be honest, I couldn't disagree more.

    Characters almost always develop in reference to other characters. Throughout this show, Grogu has constantly been the catalyst that pushes Din's character forward. Grogu pushes him to break with the guild and pursue a heroic path. Grogu forces him out of his strict code. The epitome of this is the final moment of season two, where his love for Grogu leads him to remove his helmet.

    If anything, Grogu's presence has made Din Djarin a much more dynamic character. The father/son relationship gives Mando a character dimension that elevates the show way beyond the "badass bounty hunter" thing we all expected years ago. If anything, without Grogu, Din's character has potential to become stagnant and two-dimensional if not handled well.

    But, given the show so far, I fully expect them to handle it well, even if Grogu is away for a bit.
     
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    There's enough material here to make a compelling story. I really don't believe that they won't have Grogu somehow weaved into the story even though we may not see him all the time. He could be, in a way, a mac guffin of sorts. Through force visions, a mention of him, Grogu sensing Din, the ball, the pendant, etc. could leave people wanting to watch and see what happens. I can definitely work with the right story.
     
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    I think he will great after accomplishing this task in his life, I can't wait to see what happens when he reaches Mandalore. Maybe that duel with Bo maybe on the cards.
     
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    Yes, I agree.
    No idea what they will come up with. This is the way.
     
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    He will be back. Grogu is the Mandalorian after all.

    We just are years away from realizing it.
     
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