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SPECULATION Will you stop watching Star Wars if Rey is not a Skywalker ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Bandini, Jun 17, 2016.

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Will you stop watching Star Wars if Rey is not a Skywalker ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Depends of the story

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  1. leopardhk47

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    I'll stop watching if it's revealed the Force is caused by a damn tree.

    As for Rey, on the one hand, I think it'd be really cool if she was actually a "no one" who goes on to change the fate of the galaxy but it would make much more sense for her to be a Skywalker and Star Wars isn't known for successful super intricate storytelling.
     
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    You get it wrong, the Force is there and will always be there. It's a manifestation of the Force in the world.

    A tree is the link between earth and sky. It's a living thing and way more older than human or whatever living thing.
     
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    I will keep watching SW....Why not???For me Star Wars is a GREAT story.I LOVE IT because of that.The Force,the Jedi,the Sith is something that take our minds to travel to imagination land and with the magic of a BIG screen we can NOT be wrong...:).
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    I wouldn't stop watching SW as my love for that wonderful galaxy far far away is much bigger than just the Skywalker family yet it would be a bummer for me if they let the Skywalker bloodline simply disappear and I truly want someone else besides Kylo Ren to carry the family name. I'm also against him being redeemed and I truly want him to be an evil character that will kick the bucket.
     
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    My dream scenario that Luke has a Yoda type of role for the next 6-8 episodes before he dies. The films could concentrate on his new Jedi rebuilding the Jedi Order.

    It would be fantastic that when he's laid to rest there would be a young Jedi Order in a strong position. That would be the most fitting passing for the Skywalker name. Not some tired force monarchy.
     
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    I won't stop watching, but I will stop paying for it (viva piracy). My love for SW has always been characters/themes/story and not lore.

    That being said,
    I'd hate a canon where Voldemort has a daughter and Luke Skywalker doesn't.
     
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    no i wouldnt, probably because i was never into rey being a skywalker in the first place. it never really piqued my interest, i was just expecting it to happen before TFA and then the subsequent movies would follow the OT and be kinda predictable, with her being luke's, them having a father-daughter bonding time then training and then going to go fight her cousin kylo(which i wouldnt say raises some emotional stake, cause there're just cousins who've never formed a strong emotional bond in the first place) with finn and poe and then defeat snoke and them being a happy family together with a new jedi order. so the possibility that she might not be makes me excited about where they are taking the story, kinda pulls the rug from underneath you. i really love sci-fi fantasy/fairytale stories, the more unique, interesting and compelling the better. this is just how i feel.
     
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    Ummmmmm... No. I'm still 100% going to watch all of the new films and happily pump money into Lucasfilm.

    Have faith. :)
     
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    Most people I know want her to NOT be one. A lot of fans like the idea of the galaxy being a big place and it not constantly revolving around the same people. However a lot of people also think "It's Star Wars...we want it to be about the same people.". Either way I don't think people will stop watching and I think it will be executed well with either route. I'm honestly more concerned about where the ST leaves us in the story. Who lives? Who dies? What is the state of the galaxy and the conclusion of IX? If Disney plans to make yet another trilogy it will interesting to see what kind of note they leave us on because I'm sure they wont wait an extremely long time before making the next trilogy if they do so. That being said, I would think our new cast (those whose characters survive the ST) will be involved in the next trilogy. That will be interesting to see done because we haven't seen that yet in SW. I doubt they wait 30 some years to pick it back up. You would think they will need to end the ST on a sort of not completely concluded note.
     
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    No, I would definitely watch Star Wars regardless. I'd like to see a good story the develops the arc of the new characters, but also honours the OT characters. Apart from Rey's parentage, I'd want to know more about the backstory between Kylo Ren, Luke and Snoke. What happened there? What did Luke all those years find out about the Jedi? The Force? etc. How do the Knights of Ren fit in to all this? How will Finn and Poe's characters and importance develop?
     
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    if ROTS didn't stop me (sorry it was awful) nothing will! the story is not mine, although it shaped my childhood. I took from it. there will always be parts I dont like, hell that is everything in life. but starwars I will always come back to, always!
     
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    I could never stop watching. I try to stay away from SW news and I can't even do that.

    I would be okay with Rey not being a Skywalker, but if that's the case I at least want her to have a connection to the Skywalkers. It doesn't make sense to me that Kylo Ren & Snoke seem so concerned about this girl if they don't already have an idea of who she is; which to me points to her being a Skywalker.

    However, if that is the case and Kylo knows who she is, I don't understand why an unstable Kylo wouldn't have used her parentage against her when he was scared by her powers in order to try and regain some leverage.
     
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    first off great point of view, but if done right, I think we can portray their fear of anything powerful, doesn't have to be the skywalker/jesus lineage, and who's to say that there isn't more powerful families out there, we just haven't ventured down that path yet. On the second point I don't claim full knowledge as to how the force works, but if Kylo truly is powerful and was able to see into Rey, wouldn't the first thing he would look for is here fear/angst. I mean isn't that what all the Sith did to turn their apprentices? so in the first brief instance he felt her longing for family and lost and fear she had jsut left the place she thought they would find her....just my assumption.
     
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    What I find interesting about Kylo looking into her and seeing she cant sleep, she see's and island etc. is if she is Luke's daughter and Kylo is his nephew wouldn't he instantly see this? Some image that Kylo would know to be a part of Luke's past at least and connect the dots? If she proves to be Luke's daughter I'm going to have to call a little B.S. on this and say they made Kylo's force skills look weak just to conceal Rey's identity which i personally don't care for. You could make excuses as to why he wouldn't or couldn't call this right out but i cant help but feel a little :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I agree with you there, I guess I'm just thinking from a perspective that really doesn't even involve the force, just that of a bad guy with no other tricks left up his sleeve. Rey resists his mind probe, and then later beats him in battle, so I would expect a panicked Kylo to go to "Do you even know who your parents are??" as a last ditch effort to gain the upper hand. And I could see this type of scene being a game-changer in Ep. VIII if the cards fall into place. Of course, this is all predicated on Kylo knowing her past, which really I am just assuming because of the "They had a girl with them..." "What girl?!" exchange. Unless this was truly just an innocent question used as a red herring.

    You're right though, there is plenty of room to bring another family into play, the Skywalkers can't have all the fun! But I do enjoy watching the Skywalkers have fun...
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    What about Darth Vader not knowing Leia was his daughter when he interrogated her on the Tantive IV? The force works in mysterious ways...
     
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    I don't have as much of an issue because there wasn't a 10 minute long force only interrogation. There was actually nothing showing the force used in Vader's interrogation of Leia. Which kind of shows what I'm trying to say. Showing a force interrogation of a lead character by another lead character and them not know who she is might look kind of bad later. I just don't want Kylo to be cheapened by it.
     
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    How would the interrogation have anything to do with him finding out her family? She clearly doesnt know who they are herself and I dont think he could get anything from her mind that she doesn't know herself. If he knows who she is he clearly doesn't put it together until their battle (if there is indeed a bigger meaning behind the "it is you" line). I think if Kylo knows who her family is, he'll use it to his advantage in IX.
     
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    Good point, I see what you're saying. I guess I was thinking along the lines of Vader shouldn't have to use the force to know, it would just come to him. Like in Jedi, when Vader senses Luke on board the imperial shuttle, he's not actually looking for him at the time but he senses it nonetheless. Or in ANH when Vader feels Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star. Sure Vader didn't know that he had a daughter, but I would expect him to feel something ..

    Ultimately I agree with what you're saying. But it seems like Kylo focuses on emotions, and then that leads him to the vision of the island. Could he be ignoring other vital information locked inside Rey's head? If Rey doesn't know she is Luke's daughter, can Kylo even gather that from his force interrogation? Is it possible that he becomes so hellbent in his quest to find Luke that he misses the fact that his own daughter is right in front of him? I have to agree that it would cheapen the character of Kylo but at the same time it lends to the fact that he is greatly flawed and still has a long ways to go in becoming this super villain that would parallel Vader. I think they did a pretty good job showing how unstable Kylo Ren is, and is more reactive than composed and calculated.

    Sorry if I'm playing too much devil's advocate here, I'm open to all possibilities and think TFA really laid some great groundwork for the next two installments of the trilogy.. obviously they did something right since we're all here discussing it !
     
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    Or - part of the mind wipe/mind block that Luke/Maz/somebody else put on Rey is in place until they take it off (or she is strong enough to break through it)...so it blocked Kylo as well.

    It was a "hidden" part of her mind, so to speak. I would wager that Luke is stronger than Kylo, and Kylo wouldn't be able to get around his "block" field/wall/whatever you want to call it.

    Just a thought on how they could do that, and not make Kylo look weak. He's not. It's just that what Luke did to her is stronger...
     
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    I get where everyone is coming from but the thing that really busts it all for me any is the forceback. Right before Rey is captured by Kylo she has that amazing revelation through the force with visions of Luke in it, her being left on Jakku and even Kylo himself. If that happened to me I know that vision would be playing over and over in my head. As and unexperienced force user I would say it would be pretty hard to hide something as traumatic as the vision seemed to be for Rey. Maybe Kylo does know as the novel sort of suggested? I'm not sure but it seems a little ridiculous to me that kylo couldn't see that she had been introduced to force just moments ago through a vision including himself and Luke.
     
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