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SPECULATION Will you stop watching Star Wars if Rey is not a Skywalker ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Bandini, Jun 17, 2016.

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Will you stop watching Star Wars if Rey is not a Skywalker ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Depends of the story

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  1. sls06

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    Rey clearly stopped Kylo before he got as deep into her mind as he wanted. Who's to say he got anything about the force vision?
     
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    Because Luke put a block there.

    It's why he could only get so far - her loneliness, seeing the island in her dreams, her wish for a father...once he tried to go deeper, for the map, he was blocked.

    I would imagine Luke's block on her deepest core would be even stronger.

    We are told as the audience that Rey "resisted" him because she's "strong with the Force, untrained but stronger than she knows"...because that's what Kylo would think.

    But it can all be explained very simply, with one line of dialogue actually, that Luke put block guards in her mind on her...and they would also work on anybody who might try to get in her mind.

    Just a thought: it's not that complicated. Not saying this is the story actually, but...it's not hard to have that happen if they want to.
     
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    Luke may have been able to block out her childhood and she has no recollection of it but the saber showed her a vision of her being left on Jakku. It sparked that memory and even showed her the future hence her freaking out and running into the woods. Luke may have somehow did something so that she doesn't know who she is but the things she saw in the vision were fresh in her mind. There's no denying that.
     
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    All I have to say is please no mind wipe/force block. I have never been a big fan of that idea.
     
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    I don't really like it either...

    But we see new powers with Kylo already - digging into people's minds, waving his hand and putting them to sleep, stopping laser blasts mid-air....they are clearly adding more Darkside powers.

    I think it wouldn't be much of a stretch for them to have a mind wipe/memory block, based on what we saw in TFA.
     
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    Considering the fact that I only started watching because of Finn, no I wouldn't stop watching. I actually prefer that she not be a Skywalker because I think it would kind of push Finn more into the background in a lot of fans' minds than he already is. He was marketed as the co-lead of the trilogy and that's what I expect the producers to give us. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't care one way or the other.
     
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    Hell no!!!! Although, I'd like to see her be Luke's daughter and maybe a little disappointed if she isn't, there is NO WAY I'd stop watching Star Wars.
     
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    They definitely could go that route for sure. I just hope they don't.
     
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    No
     
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    No, I won't stop watching Star Wars (that's a ridiculous and childish tact to take), but I would be disappointed.

    Beyond the force and force users the Skywalkers are at the heart of this episodic saga.

    It doesn't matter to me whether Rey is a Skywalker by way of Leia or Luke, though IMO it makes more sense for that to be by Leia. Just based on the ease in which Rey took to the force it fits the saga best if she were a Skywalker.

    Not that other beings should be less powerful in the force than a Skywalker. I think Darth Sidious, Darth Plagueis (per the non-canon novel), Mace Windu, and Yoda qualify as equally powerful force users -- whatever their midichlorian count suggests (and I am a pro-midichlorian Star Wars fan). Just as there are undoubtedly other beings in the "present" (ST-era) who could be so powerful. With the understanding that TPTB are not going to tip their hand, all outward appearances make it sound like it is just as likely that Rey fits into that category.

    Make another trilogy or series of Star Wars films and end this one if you want to veer from the Skywalker line. Just as the Episodes were added after the fact, make this the "Skywalker" saga and then make another saga based on whoever.
     
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    Sorry 2 be "That Guy" but yes. Yes I will.

    I hate that Disney made my beloved big 3 such huge failures.

    I hate Kylo's arc so far. Yes partly because he killed Han but as bad as Anakin's reasons for turning 2 the dark was Kylo's r worse.

    Whaaaa! My grandfather was Vader! Why didn't my dad tell me! Whaaaaa!

    Please.

    I love the Saga so much! But the thing i loved about it the most was family love saved the day.

    I dread the fact that Kylo may live on as the last Blood Skywalker.

    And im going to believe that if Rey is anything else besides a Skywalker or Solo that she will forgive a non sibling/cousin who......

    Destroyed Luke's Academy.
    Killed a helpless old man.
    Ordered a village barbecued.
    Tortured a P.O.W.
    Sliced open the back of her new BFF.
    Mind Violated her while shackled.
    And killed her new father figure?

    That's just a jagged pill i couldn't swallow even with the sweetest ice cream.

    Who knows what more ghastly deeds KR will do?

    Yeah I'll be done with the main movies. I'll still go see the Han movie though.
     
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    I would rather her not be a Skywalker, honestly. I would prefer her parents either have just been rebels, maybe pilots. (Hence the rebel pilot doll in her home on Jakku and her keeping the pilot helmet to wear) I've been wondering a lot lately if she'll be kind of templated after Tenel Ka and Jaina. (Jaina in that she will be the one to either bring Kylo down or redeem him. Tenel Ka in that maybe her parents or at least one parent is royalty? Boom. We would have a Star Wars Disney Princess. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they went this route. Makes sense to me, but hey...who knows.)

    Her being a Skywalker just doesn't really make sense to me. Even the things that people have taken as hints of her lineage being connected to Luke, Leia, and Vader...I just don't see it. I think the only reveal that might happen in this trilogy pertaining to a new "Skywalker" is Snoke. I really think either he will be revealed as Anakin's creator (even if he's not Plageius) or he will reveal how Anakin came about. I also feel that with all of the consistent reports of Kylo arriving on AT and meeting with Rey and Luke, that maybe Kylo will reveal her true origins to her. I feel like everyone expects her and Luke to be the Luke/Yoda of this trilogy, but I think they might just be leading us that way to shock people when they see what really happens. I think Luke will either tell her some kind of lie that Kylo debunks, or Kylo will tell her a lie that she falls for and it could possibly be something that turns her against or at least away from Luke. I just have this sneaking suspicion that this trilogy won't end well for either of the mentors of these two strong Force Users. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    I find it somewhat amusing that all the people who want Rey Not A Skywalker who say that having Rey b a Skywalker is boring, predictable & a rehash r usually the ones who want a Kylo redemption with a soon 2 follow death.
     
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    Yeah I don't think that was the motivation at all for Kylo. I think he wants to do exactly what he said. Finish what Vader started. Resentment toward both parents is likely but I don't think his motives are that shallow.

    He certainly is a great villain he subverted all our post ROTJ hopes. He brought disorder into the fair tale. Now it needs to be restored.

    As for them being failures that is a harsh judgment 1st it doesn't diminish their victories we enjoyed seeing. It was Ben's turn that hit them all that's what split the happy couple and destroyed the Jedi temple. That's tragic but labeling failures seems like blaming the victims.

    Further these failures have;

    1- Leia formed the Resistance and lead it to major victory against SKB.
    2- Han brought 2 new heroes out of obscurity into "a much larger world" mirroring Obi-Wan's role in ANH. Further Han's death was epic. He loved his son to the end. Ford wanted Han to go out a long time ago. I see his send off was tragic and compelling. That's not a failure.
    3- Luke seems to have found the temple he was seeking and we still have 2 movies surrounding how he will deal with things.
     
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    At this point, I could care less if she is a Skywalker. In fact, I rather she weren't a Skywalker. But whatever. It's not going to ruin the movies for me.
     
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    The OT fan in me would love to have Rey be a Skywalker, but if it makes sense within the narrative. I don't know what's in RJ's head (although I'd like to know, ha!). I do know that, well she has to be a Skywalker plot point, is the centre from which RJ had to write the story, is absolutely not the case. It's what's going to make sense in the trilogy moving forward. Remember the big question: Who is Luke Skywalker? Having scene some of RJ's works, I don't think Luke will be related to Rey.

    I'm finally saying what I've been thinking for the last few weeks and that is as much as I'd be thrilled if she were a Skywalker, my intuition is telling me more and more that she is NOT a Skywalker. I know that the teaser trailer did provide us finally with some visuals and a plot point by Luke which has most of us riding the speculation wagon at full "force" (pun intended), however, what I've seen and heard is leading me to believe that she is NOT related to Luke. I don't know why.

    That said, I think their relationship will be an important one in cracking open some of the misconceptions of the Jedi and the true nature of how the Force works. Thus, stopping Snoke and somehow... now I know I'll get a tongue lashing for this... redeeming Kylo Ren and the Skywalker lineage. Rey is obviously key in settling the balance, but how she will do that and what role Luke will play, although important, is a mystery at this point.

    Hats off to Lucasfilm because this film is so hush-hush (and it's driving me mad!), but I think we'll reap the benefits of seeing a film with a lot of twists and turns without too many leaks or spoilers.

    Either way, I'm excited about the next film and how Luke will be utilized in it. Definitely be different, but I hope they do his character justice (No Luke killing , please. Not yet! Can't handle Carrie's passing and then Luke going as well. Yikes. ) Oh well. Enjoy it for what it is!
     
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    To be a Jedi is not exclusive to Skywalkers.
    And the more I think about it... the more I am tend to think that for the Sequels to work, Rey has to be something else than a Skywalker.
    We already have 2 Skywalker character arcs in the Star Wars Sequel trilogy:
    - Ben that will probably have a redemption arc that will be very interesting, I still believe Adam Driver, a magnificent actor, wouldn't have been casted if it was to be anything else but the central character of that new trilogy.
    - Luke, on his own arc to regain confidence in his abilities to train a Force user, and probably at the end of the Trilogy succeeds in Rey, helping her to bring back Ben to the good side.
     
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    I don't think that's why he turned. All evidence points to him hating the 'Jedi' and thinking he should destroy them. it says as much on his databank profile.
    So he wipes out a Jedi academy, and will do anything, anything at all to get back to Luke and kill him (I assume). The reason He turned is shrouded from us, and I don't think it has anything to do with upset over the Vader thing. for some reason Kylo Ren believes Vaders destiny was to rid the galaxy of the Jedi, and that he has taken up that mantle, hence the 'Jedi Killer' name he has.

    I think we'll find out a great deal more about this in the next film.

    I agree that its a shame to think that the origional 3 failed, but that is essentially the plot of TFA, Kylo Ren messed it all up for them.
    I don't see how making a Rey a Skywalker fixes that.

    Leia still lost her son, Han still got killed, Luke still lost his apprentice and academy.

    I won't mind if Rey is a Skywalker as long as its done well. but the only way to actually make it end okay for Luke & Leia is to get Ben Solo back I think. but I'm a big fan of his character so I guess I'm bias.
     
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    I doubt it. I do believe Luke need to have children though. It does not have to be Rey. To continue Anakin's legacy, Luke need to have kids. Ben Solo need to have kids too.
     
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    KR is only a Skywalker by blood. He is no longer a Skywalker from my certain point of view. Calling him a Skywalker is like calling Vader still a Jedi.
     
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