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Would you like to see prequel elements in ep VIII?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Mcbee, Jun 10, 2016.

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    Totally agree! I would also love to see some galactic politics as well.
    I would also like to see more of the Force Lightning we got to see. That would be awesome!
     
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    To me there is a flaw in that theory which is evidenced in the above and more.

    That the PT era and OT eras are somehow some kind of separate and distinct entities that can be divided.

    They can't be and just as TFA, Rogue One, the comics, books and Rebels show the whole point is that they are weaving all the new content together with the base of I-VI and TCW.

    There is really no such thing as a "OT" era comic. There is a Star Wars comic. A Star Wars book and so on just like a Star Wars movie.

    Among the many examples in TFA not the least being Rey and Kylo Ren themselves it's like trying to separate Anakin's Lightsaber in ROTS from his Lightsaber in ANH and his Lightsaber in TFA.

    It's the same Lightsaber in all three and the greater significance of it as a story point comes from ROTS.

    The reality is that because Lucas left so much unexplained in the OT that the explanations as seen in the PT are the basis from which the story will go forward.
     
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    I've always been of the belief regarding the prequels that, while I would remake them if I could, one should not "throw the baby out with the bathwater."
    No better example of this was taking the concept of the electrostaffs and turning it into the electrotonfa Nines used to kick Finn's @$$.
     
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    One thing that's for sure about the PT is, for everyone who criticizes the ST if more characters are related to OT characters as being small yet still likes the PT. You might as well wear a sign on yourself that says "I dont care how good it is, If George Lucas didn't make it, it sucks". There has been so many people saying things about the ST and how they feel Disney has made or seems like they are going to make the universe "small". Go rewatch the PT. Maybe you have forgotten how just about every aspect of those movies connects with something in the OT or a character is another characters family member.

    If something is brought up in the ST that calls for a sort of history lesson (like the Jedi) then I don't mind some PT things being brought up. Besides a scenario like that the ST is taking place far enough from when the PT happened that it really is kind of unrealistic to see anything significant lingering. Things being brought up in history or one of the planets that appeared in the PT are really the only things that probably would feel forced.
     
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    Well also not relating ANYTHING to the prequels wouldn't give the saga the quality that it already has because , as we all know , the main movies are about The Skywalkers and that makes me pretty sure that other characters would be involved who are related at least in some way and that would require either prequel people and/or planets .
     
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    Right, like I said history and planets doesn't bother me and common SW knowledge like Jedi, Republic etc. is fine but I'm more so talking about prequel exclusive characters and events coming up are a pretty big stretch to be mentioned or seen in the ST. The little subtle things will be in there and that's fine I just don't want to feel like its forced for the sake of "connecting" the trilogies. All of the trilogies are about Skywalkers. That's connection enough. We all know what happened. No need to spell it out again.
     
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    What is odd about that is that it all started in ANH in the first place. Obi-Wan knew Luke's father. Served in the Clone Wars with Leia's father. Then Vader turned out to be Luke's father and Leia his sister. Of all the places the Falcon could possibly go in TESB it just happens to be possible to go where his old buddy Lando is. etc etc.


    Well this is the point. From TFA's (Episode VII) standpoint the first six movies are the history but it doesn't have to be brought up directly as such because anyone can already see it. Since both the OT and ST start at basically the same point in terms of one lone Jedi then they both automatically relate back to the PT when there was an entire Jedi Order. From the galactic events of the Republic, the Clone Wars, the Rise of the Empire, the Sith and the Jedi it all traces back to the PT. Then on the family side it also traces back to the PT with Anakin and Padme intersecting with Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Sidious, Yoda et al.

    The PT is inherently and irrevocably integrated into the OT and ST. Luke and Leia are Anakin and Padme's children, Ben Solo is their grand-child, Anakin's Lightsaber and Darth Vader helmet are key relics in TFA and on and on it goes.
     
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    The prequels' biggest achievement was world building. I'd love to see a return to some of the prequel planets (Naboo, Kashyyyk, Utapau, Geonosis... Coruscant seems the most likely now that Hosnian Prime is gone). And "Aftermath" and the comics ("Darth Vader", "Shattered Empire") did a fantastic job of weaving prequel elements into new continuity.

    The most glaring thing about TFA for me was how it created new alien designs that were similar to existing ones (e.g. the Ithorian-looking alien that wasn't Ithorian). I even saw one Twi'lek-looking character in the background of Maz's castle that should've just been a Twi'lek. The prequels introduced loads of cool alien designs (e.g. Pauans), why not include them?

    I remember hoping what we now know as D'Qar would be Naboo. Seeing as the First Order know where Leia's base is, maybe Ep VIII would be a good chance to return there...?
     
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    Yes. I dislike 75% of what constituted the prequels, but I love The Clone Wars, it really rehabilitated that era for me. Mr. Bones in the Aftermath trilogy has even rehabilitated battle droids in my view. So yeah, not heavy prequel stuff but like a character, or a few references or even a planet that was in The Clone Wars. I wouldn't even mind Naboo being in there if it was done well and there was a good reason for it.
     
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    A representative from Naboo, now old and fat and full of broken dreams.
     
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    I'd like to see ventilation shafts of some type.
     
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    i don't want to see the prequels pushed to one side and forgotten about, they where floored films, but they where also highly imaginative and had intresting idea's they just failed on delivery.

    so i would like to make sure the prequels are kept as part of the story going forward, maybe a visit to coruscant, an Anakin force ghost.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of the prequels. I enjoyed parts of each of the films but as a whole, I dislike them. HOWEVER, they are canon and part of the story. You can argue that the story wasn't told well but you can't just ignore it. I would love to see some of the best elements brought into the ST. I'd be fine with seeing Darth Maul in some capacity, a Ewan McGregor Force Ghost, an old ship from that era restored and in use again. Tie it all together.
     
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    No.

    If the PT were an ice cream flavor, it would be pralines and dick.
     
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    I would like more couches and couch scenes. There was a definitive lack of couches in TFA. The biggest callback was when the were sitting at a TABLE at Maz's castle. Hardly couch material. Missed opportunity for one of these ornate suckers:
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    We need a slow 5-10 minute dialogue scene where we can just catch up and chat with our characters about all the things that have happened off camera. This please.
     
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    Yeah only if they go to places like Naboo and Coruscant...if you watch The PT those were the only two planets where there were any sort "couch" scenes..
     
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    would love to see naboo or coruscant in this trilogy.. even bringing hayden and ewan back as force ghosts would be really cool...might be more fitting for episode IX though? regardless, the world-building in the prequels is something i hope rian johnson has implemented in 8. TFA was sorely lacking in terms of building the universe. and on a side note, i freaking love anakin and obi-wan's starfighters. i have zero clue how those types of ships would fit into the new trilogy, but i'd love it!
     
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    I think a true force ghost in VIII is a strong possibility if done right .
     
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