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X-Men Film Franchise

Discussion in 'Film' started by DarthDwight, Nov 24, 2014.

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What should happen to the X-Men Cinematic Universe?

  1. Marvel should take back the rights and do the characters justice!

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  2. Just reboot the whole thing with new producers at Fox. Mutants wouldn't fit into the MCU anyway.

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  3. Get a new production team but don't reboot. A few of those films were great!

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  4. Focus on single character films like Deadpool or Wolverine then do team-up films like the MCU does.

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  5. Have Marvel help out but keep them separate from the MCU.

    5.3%
  6. MOAR DEADPOOL!! MOAR!! MOAR!!

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    First, there is nothing wrong with liking X3 when you're not waist deep in the source material. Truth be told I watched BvS knowing little about DC properties outside of Batman and I left the theatre with rather intrigued appreciation over Snyder's approach. It was a strange feeling but in the end it was good strange feeling.. because I haven't felt that sort of 'challenge' from a film since The Matrix waay back in March of 99.
    Obsiously, with the X-men, my problem is that I was a young pubescent when this was on TV:

    And, for whatever silly reason.. I judge all of these films by that show. Put me in charge of the movie franchise.. first movie is "Night of the Sentinels".
    That got me into the comics, and I was only able to collect a few of them due to my limited funds during childhood.. but one in particular I got was Uncanny X-Men #300. That issue, to me personally, defines how I view the X-men. And that was a period where the x-men comics ran 'darker' and it's tone sort of matched the show.
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    If it ever happens.
     
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    I hope so I don't think they used him enough in Wolverine origins,
     
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    Agreed. I liked that actor too but they have replaced him with Channing Tatum. They should just put the character into the next Deadpool or X-Men film.
     
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    The Xmen film series is so out of wack. They need to just reboot everything, keep the cast from Deadpool and Apocalypse but merge with the MCU after Infinity War.
     
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    Good idea, he would fit in well with both those movies
     
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    Deadpool 2 would work better because Gambit and Deadpool are in a team up comic right now.
     
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    Agreed I was going to mention that after the June edition that came out, glad you said it first.
     
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    The x-men will need to ditch the whole "civil rights" aspect if that's going to happen. I think that's a silent strong point of the deadpool film: it completely disregards the whole "mutie" atmosphere in favor of something more relevant to modern times. I'm sort of 50/50 on this issue; I think the XCU is certainly trying to get to that point with this 'decades' thing.. they just blew it with X:A. But once you lose that aspect what is the point of the X-men other than characters to insert into MCU films and for Deadpool to bounce off of. Do we just ignore that backstory and launch them into space(where I think their best adventures were)?
     
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    I think so. Some of my favorite cartoon episodes had to do with the Shi'ar Empire and the Starjammers. But if that were to happen, avoiding similarities with Guardians of the Galaxy would be a bit difficult.
     
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    They, depending on Infinty War's outcome, would also have to explain their absence during the Chitari invasion.
     
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    That movie is going nowhere. It's been apparent since stories of issues about the film first popped up in 2015, ranging from budgetary concerns to rumors of Channing Tatum apparently getting cold feet. But with X-Men: Apocalypse underperforming pretty hard and Deadpool - a film they had no intention of making - turning out to be a huge sleeper hit, it seems clear to me that Fox is really bad at planning a shared universe, and it's not surprising to me that Gambit is looking like it's going to be dropped entirely. (And they're still insistent on doing another period-piece trilogy, even though the only movie in the XMFC trilogy that made great numbers was X-Men 4 for all intents and purposes, which is why it did well.)

    It's rather telling that Doug Liman jumping ship to work on another CBM project that ran into development issues (DC's Justice League Dark adaptation, which apparently has a finished script but didn't get a director's commitment from Guillermo Del Toro, who never finishes anything these days) now has a lot more progress done on it at the current point. I figured that Fox would be in hot water once DC got going with their shared universe - even if their movies aren't doing so well with critics, they're dominating Fox's efforts in terms of financial returns.
     
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    Yeah, he jumps as soon as the Squad passes X:A at the box. Writings on the wall...
     
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    Not only does Suicide Squad fly past X-Men: Apocalypse at the box office, it does so without being screened in China and with worse overall critical reception (which typically affects word-of-mouth, but the movie is getting by just fine in spite of having more split reviews from the fanbase).

    The ironic thing is that if X-Men: Apocalypse made nearly $800M worldwide and Deadpool $550M, then Twentieth Century Fox would be completely fine right now, even with the fact that the rest of their Summer has been pretty terrible overall finance-wise. That their flagship franchise is being overshadowed by a movie they had no intention of making is rather concerning for them, I'm sure. Especially since it seems as though they can't retain the X-Men rights as a whole with spin-offs, and they have to make more "main" installments in order to keep the license. Interest should be down because audiences only really care about Wolverine (who is being retired) and the legs on the last movie were pretty abysmal.

    In other news, Ryan Reynolds had to pay the writers of Deadpool out of his own pocket to stay on the set while filming happened. Which to me, confirms that the movie was a fluke as far as a Fox production goes (they're notorious for meddling) and that it was only good because they stayed out of the way of the creative individuals working on the project. I really hope that Simon Kinberg is focused on getting a deal with Marvel ready, because as it currently stands, the franchise is pretty much screwed outside of Deadpool, and what's sad is that it shouldn't have to be.
     
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    Are you studying film production by chance or is it just a hobby?
     
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    O.. M.. G..:eek:
     
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    Nah, though box office trends are things I'm somewhat interested in in this age of film franchises.

    I think that Suicide Squad's main problem was that it needed a little more development time. For the most part, it got a lot right as both an adaptation and as a superhero movie, but there are some things that brought it down that could have been fixed if they put a little more time into the script and editing. There's room for them to make a better sequel in the future, and given that the movie is set to make near-Guardians Of The Galaxy numbers without the key market of China suggests that interest in DC movies that don't have Batman or Superman in the title is there.

    X-Men Apocalypse, on the other hand, was overblown and lacking in depth. I didn't hate it, but I feel as though it tried to handle too much for a 2.5-hour movie that would have been better served with two theatrical productions instead of one. It ran into the same problem that X-Men: The Last Stand did in trying to adapt too much for one story. Honestly, I think The Last Stand is actually better than Apocalypse because it actually handled one of its two narratives well (the "Mutant Cure" story) and delivered a poor adaptation of the "Dark Phoenix" arc (which as its own thing was fairly competent in execution, but far weaker than what the previous movie built up to), whereas Apocalypse struggled with three story arcs (the formation of the "classic" X-Men team, telling a story of Apocalypse serving as the greatest threat to Mutantkind and Humanity alike, and capping off the story arcs presented in the other two period-piece movies), none of which reached their full potential. There was a general feeling of "been there, done that" to it (another wacky Quicksilver slow-motion sequence, another sequence of Wolverine near-naked and killing guards, and so on) that makes me feel as though the franchise needs new blood and better management.
     
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    I am on the same page of you. Rather than beating the "give the rights back to Marvel" dead horse, perhaps they should hand off the series to guys like Ryan Reynolds and his team who did Deadpool since they did their best to make a great film that kept the charm of the comic.
     
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