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SPECULATION Yay a new prequel!

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Apr 24, 2015.

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    The Carrion Spike does, and I swear I remember Anakin piloting a ship during The Battle of the Kaliida Nebula against the Malevolence, but I am not 100% about that (perhaps someone can verify). You must mean first on-screen ship with a cloaking device.
     
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    Ain't that the truth.
     
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    Wasn't the Kaliida Nebula the arc where they attacked the malevolence with a squadron of Y-Wings?

    The stealth ship was actually mentioned in Tarkin when talking about the design of the Carrion Spike.

     
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    Correct. I had the battles mixed up (been a while). It was over Christophsis that I remember a small ship with a cloaking device was used by Anakin and company. I see now that was the predecessor to the Carrion Spike.

    StealthShipTargetsInvincible.jpg
     
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    I'm not convinced based on what Gareth said at Celebration that this is a movie for kids. This is going to show death and war in the realest form it's ever been shown in the Star Wars franchise.
     
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    It won't get any darker than ROTS, star wars needs to stay pg-13 ish to keep it a family film.
     
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    That's because the OT, "space western" that it was, took place out on the frontier.

    And really, for movies like this, that frontier setting is (IMHO, anyway) where the most exciting stuff usually happens. It's like the way the best stuff in a pirate movie usually happens out on the open ocean, rather than ashore in a big city.
     
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    It can hit Lord of the Rings level realism and still get a PG-13 while still feeling like the battles have actual weight. It doesn't have to be Platoon for it to work well.
     
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    I agree with you there. I'm not saying rated-r but it will be PG-13 in my opinion. It will show more real war than any other star wars movie.
     
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    I don't really see why we couldn't have more adult-oriented movies for those of us that grew up with SW, now that Disney has decided to expand the scope of movies. Granted, there is a core belief of what a Star Wars movie is - a family-oriented spaghetti-western space opera - but the original perception of that also is subject to change as time goes on. So doesn't that mean that we (and Disney, I guess) should consider making more diverse subjects for their movies to suit the ever-increasing average age of the Star Wars fan?
     
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    Go back and watch ANH, paying special attention to the violence. And remember that this was (and still is) an all-ages film.

    The notion that Star Wars is specifically designed to cater to small children is not what the saga started off to be. Lucas' original target demographic was teenaged boys, though he wanted Star Wars to have broad enough appeal that everyone could enjoy it. It wasn't until he put walking talking teddy bears in ROTJ that the assumption began to be that the films were supposed to be for little kids.

    So I think that it's no so much that there need to be more adult-oriented Star Wars movies now, as it is that we need to see some SW films that aren't run through a Care Bears filter to target them at small children.
     
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    One word. Money.

    Star Wars is a 4 quadrant property. Making movies outside of that risks damaging the built in wide appeal audience.
     
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    To echo max a little bit, yeah its all about the money.

    I'd kinda want to see a more adult oriented star wars story, but I get that they wouldn't want to damage the brand. It is a bit weird to have a franchise with certain entries that the kids can't see. Wouldn't it be weird to have the second matrix as pg, or the third iron man as rated R?

    I know no one said r-rated, just giving a tangential thought experiment.

    It seems like the movie can be pretty hardcore, as long as there is no blood.

    The star wars films, are already the most violent pg films that exist.
     
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    Star Wars is in the convenient place of being in the MPAA's blind spot. HUman blood is a problem. Alien blood is not. All they have to do is have most of the blood be from alien creatures and all the sudden you have a PG-13 movie. Its the old Holywood adage...As long as you're killing Aliens or Nazis, no one cares. I'd add zombies to that ist these days as well.

    Just look at LotR. How many orcs are beheaded in those movies. Blood spurting everywhere. They are extremely gory movies. But the goriest deaths have black blood and are non-human. They conveniently skip the gore if its a human/elf being killed. And voila, you have a family friendly movie.

    Rogue One could easily go this route. Have the primary gore occur in foreign anatomy to keep the illusion of a gritty war movie while dancing the PG-13 line. That and no nudity. We know from an MPAA standpoint, you can kill and maim all the people you want. But if you show a human body, kids can't see it.
     
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    Blood doesn't denote adult content or violence ( i understand that in the ratings industry red blood actually does denote violence) The scene in American History X (you know the one right?) is off screen, that is the worst scene i've seen in a film and its off screen. I'm not saying Star Wars should/would/ or could go that route but seeing storm troopers/ rebels die without blood and it still seem violent is completely possible, I was under the impression that laser burns cauterize anyway (post Obi Ben's saber at least) So I don't think we need to worry about the red blood content/vs a childish movie. I also agree with the OP that this is a risky move to set a film basically within the OT timeline, because if they suddenly add in a cool new fighter or a new powerful enemy then it will easily raise questions within A New Hope.
     
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    Even though the plot centers around the Death Star plans, I think Rogue One will not really be about the Death Star. The plot will be a vehicle to explore the galactic conflict on a human scale, to get a soldier's eye view of the war. I think it will actually be a comparatively "small" film about the lives and lifestyles of rebel soldiers, with lots of action of course, since they are fighting a war. The style of cinematography will be totally different from the core saga, since it is a spin-off, but I have faith they will nail the technology and get the "look" correct.
     
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    This one will have...
    -bigger X-wing vs Tie fighter battles think ROTJ but twice as large (The Space battle)
    -Bounty Hunters will be in this
    -The biggest rebel troops vs stormtroopers battle (Think in ROTJ rebel troops fighting stormtoopers, but like 5 times larger)
    -Stormtroopers will finally hit targets
    -Lots of death will happen

    I think they've taken some unused scripts from Lucas's star wars:Underworld and merged a story from it.
     
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    The simple fact that there will be little to no Jedi or force use will make this movie be totally different than all other Star Wars films. I'm really excited to see how the GFFA can be portrayed in this different light.
     
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    Maybe not Platoon, but Full Metal Jacket would work well.

    [Biggs finds Porkins in the head loading his blaster]
    Porkins: [eerily] Hi, Biggs.
    Biggs: [concerned] Is that power pack charged?
    Porkins: My DH-17 blaster pistol.
    Biggs: [calmly] Jek, if Dreis comes in here and catches us, we'll both be in a world of poodoo.
    Porkins: I am... in a world...of poodoo!
     
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    I think we can pretty much rule out any anthology films pre- Phantom menace. I think all of the films will focus on original triogy characters. I think thats unfortunate because I would like to see some new faces that could be incorporated into episode 8, 9 or even 7
     
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