Your ideas for IX's plot.

i agree. even if the Resistance have spent a whole year recruiting.. they won't have the kind of force they used to have, and the FO certainly won't have the size of force that the Empire once had. i don't see how between them they could muster a war to end all wars... but combined against a new threat? i think so

 

I personally think IX will finish with this new threat destroyed. But what it does is show that there are other unforeseen threats out there for future films. This has to draw a line under the Skywalker saga. And for me, the return of a Plagueis led threat would do that beautifully.

 

My inner snark says "wasn't that The Last Jedi? Or at least what the films TLJ was based off promised?"

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL!

 

I'm not going to be disappointed no matter what

After The Force Awakens a good deal of my mind was devoted to regularly trying to figure what would happen in VIII and I was able to imagine quite a few scenarios (although none of them happened of course). Complete blank on IX though.

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I'd imagine he means a big ass battle.

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There is no one to lead the New Republic unless they could introduce a new political leader (Richard E. Grant perhaps) or that Leia is going to be alive a the end of IX.

Maybe there will be no Republic. The GFFA decides a central government is not worth in an d all systems go independent and try to get along.

I wouldn't be surprised if Abrams doesn't give it any thought at all.

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The sequel trilogy should have been about those other thread instead of recreating the Empire and Vader.

 

I like the idea that there could be no Republic anymore. I mean, how many have to be dissolved and blown up until people realize it doesn't work, at least in the SW Universe? A one-person show doesn't work either, for obvious reasons. So, I like your idea of calling it free-for-all and everyone tries to get along the best they can after the war. It could work, for a while

 

It was what I was hoping for with the Sequel trilogy.

In the aftermath of Endor the Rebel Alliance splits with most systems going independent with loose alliance, trade deals, etc. rather than risk another Emperor.

Leia and Mothma get their New Republic but it is a small fraction of what they thought and another faction of similar size forms and eventually things turn hostile and cold war develops.

Luke finds himself caught in the middle because everyone has a point and the GFFA is also split on whether the Jedi should rise again.

Add in crime syndicates, weapons manufacturers, pirates, etc.

I can get a few trilogies out of that before we get the invading alien horde.

 

As I posted in the "Episode IX Title Speculation" thread, considering the plot above, and playing with the words of each of the first episodes of each trilogy so far, that could give a good title to episode IX :

EPISODE IX : A NEW MENACE AWAKENS

 

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I could see something like that.

Ancient Force-user Empire could throw the galaxy into chaos in the best way possible, and would make sense in the context of the franchise's legacy.

I'm not sure they necessarily need to be the Eternal Empire, and at most they'd simply be them in name and general outline, since I'm sure new canon wants to shake things up a little bit, but that could still be a great not to fans.

 

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If I had to wager a guess they probably wouldn't call it the Eternal Empire so they could be completely unfettered in new story development. I actually assumed that once they hired the creators /writers from GOT to create new Sagas, that it would be separate from the GFFA that we've known, but would eventually tie back to them. And this is where that tie in could occur EPIX. But there is so much world building, faction building, character building that they would have to do leading up to that intersection that they could easily do a 3 trilogies worth of story. I mean imagine it. We get introduced to a whole different part of the galaxy or another galaxy in EPIX, and then we get 3 sets of trilogies telling that galaxy's story up until the EPIX intersection.

 

I have to be very careful here as I want to avoid all rumours and spoilers.

I need to see a bit more ambition from JJ Abrams in regards locations and worlds.

Apart from being just a Tatooine clone, Jakku made no sense. If the planet had that much wreckage from crashed starships shouldn't the planet have experienced an ecological disaster? Shouldn't the air be toxic, etc?

I think Jakku should have been like San Diego in Blade Runner 2049 or like the garbage planet in Thor Ragnarok.

I need to see alien environments and cities like in the Prequels, TCW and Guardians of the Galaxy. I need the heroes and villains to have adventures in urban areas like the cities in Mortal Engines and Alita.

The reason a lot of action occurred in the "wilderness" in the OT was because the Rebellion was trying to hide itself or the Empire was hiding secrets.

In the Prequels, Rebels and TCW the action takes place on worlds were people actually live and there is a reason to fight over it.

And I hope there is no planet killing super weapon in IX. I want a big land and space battle though.

I had hoped both VII and VIII would have a big battle on Mon Cal but I think if that is ever going to happen it needs to happen IX because Aquaman has already done great underwater stuff and apparently the Avatar sequels have big plans for ocean based action so Star Wars will be left behind if they don't do something now. However, I think Abrams is too focused on keeping it all "grounded".

 

I think that would be great.

Heck, after 2 other trilogies we'd be potentially 10-15 years down the line. Maybe Driver/Ridley/Boyega and co would be down for X-XII at that point.

 

Does anyone think that IX is too late in the trilogy to introduce the Knights of Ren? They are named once in TFA and their appearance on screen is very, very brief. They are not referenced by name at all in TLJ.

They really should have been a bigger deal in TFA and at least one of them should have appeared in TLJ .


Please don’t post whether or not there is evidence that the Knights of Ren are in IX. I don’t want to know one way or the other - I’m just interested in people’s opinion as to whether they should appear or be left for an Rey TV series or something

 

No, it's not too late. Think of the Emperor in ROTJ. He was introduced in that movie too.

They definitely should and will appear. I also think that one (or even two of them) will be personified for the sake of the story.

 

Yes but Lucas had properly paved the way for him in the previous two films. Mention of the Knights of Ren is easily missed in the two new movies.


They definitely should and will appear. I also think that one (or even two of them) will be personified for the sake of the story.[/QUOTE]

I hope the "will" is opinion and not that spoiler/rumour I hoped to avoid.

 

It's speculation on my part, but if you want to avoid spoilers and rumors, you shouldn't be on a Star Wars forum. This sounds harsh, I know, but you can't really avoid spoilers nowadays. But don't worry, spoilers and rumors are part of the fun! : D

 

There are some cool possibilities, such as inserting the label "SPOILER" in the title of the thread as a warning, such as writing any spoiler info under a spoiler tag, such as labelling titles like "The title for Episode IX has been revealed !!!!" instead of "The title has been revealed for EPISODE IX : it will be LUKE SKYWALKER SUPERSTAR !!!!"

Well, one can perfectly keep himself away from spoilers, but only if the others dare to behave in a non-spoilery way.
I think that, here down on our beloved Cantina forum, this is kind of pretty well respected. I wanted neither a single spoiler info nor a single trailer/teaser when Solo came out, it was the same for Episode 8, and I have been able to freely come on the Cantina, without being spoiled nor without falling on information that I would not have wanted to see.
Big Thanks to the moderation and staff team, as they are the true guardians of the peace .
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Same here. I saw Solo without seeing any trailer and I enjoyed it very much. No trailers for Episode 8 either (ok, except for the first teaser trailer), although, and this is a "funny" story, I was furious to see the trailer being played at the cinema right before watching Episode 8! I tried my best not to hear or see anything. Can you believe that?

I think I will watch the first teaser trailer for 9, but I'll probably not watch the following ones, and will not want to read spoilers. So, one more vote here to please use the Spoiler label and tag in the posts. Thanks!

 

I don’t think that it is too late to introduce the Knights of Ren into the story. They were mentioned in TFA. Given that TLJ started right where TFA left off there really wasn’t a good way to introduce them in TLJ. By bringing them into IX, a new/increased threat to our heroes can be created

 

Yeah, I don't think it's too late at all to bring in the Knights. In fact, though I was disappointed they weren't in TFA, it might really pay off well to have audiences wondering what they're all about for four years before they finally show up. That's how you do buildup.

 

I think that would be a fantastic idea and, as you point out, they were referenced by name in E7 when Snoke says to Kylo "Even you, Master of the Knights of Ren...."

There was definitely some description of those characters in the concept art, so they do have material to work with if they choose. I would enjoy seeing that very much.