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SPOILER Andor Ep. 12 FINALE Discussion

Discussion in 'Andor' started by Madmartigan, Nov 23, 2022.

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  1. Madmartigan

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    Am crying.

    Never thought coming back to Ferrix would be so emotional, so dark, so tens, so sad, so epic.
    This show is a bless. This finale is a bless.

    Perfect episode. Is what it is.
    The tension all through it is extreme, the edition, the actors, the music, the tempo...

    The dictatorial Empire here.
    The people of Ferrix.
    The ones who help Andor.
    The fight.
    The people of the rebellion.
    Syril and Deedra.
    Cassian and Luthen at the end. Didn't expect that. Magical.
    All blow my mind away. All of it.

    I am one of those that the manifesto touches me so hard. TRY! Is the word I start crying in this episode. TRY!


    The end credits music is just epic, just because it leads to an EPIC END CREDITS SCENE! Don't miss it!

    Am so emotional right now.

    Thank you LF, Gilroy and Co. to make this masterpiece. Thank you.
     
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    Completely totally absolutely AMAZING. From the opening title music to the end-credit scene... Beautifully written, directed, shot, acted...
    It was so emotional and so intense I'm just gonna have to watch it again to process it completely.
     
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    Luthen didn’t say much in this episode, he didn’t have to, his reactions to what was happening around him were beautifully and poignantly expressed.
     
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    A perfect way to cap the season. Cassian goes back and makes Ferrix whole - even though it was going to happen anyway.

    The final sequence was not what I expected. I expected an armed encounter between Luthen and Cassian. Well written, well-acted, great cinematography. “Kill me, or take me in”. Nemik’s writing plus the events on the Ferrix have pushed Cassian to the limit - he’s “all in” now.

    The post credit-scene is in line with what I expected - Death Star components. It left me wondering why the Empire/ISB didn’t discuss the breakout at all; could it be that most of them don’t know about Narkina 5 or the project? That’s the only reason I can think of for not mentioning it.

    The car ride with Perrin and Mon - who thinks that was staged? That along with the introduction to Sculvin’s son, leads me to believe that Perrin isn’t as much of an enemy as Mon makes him out to be. Maybe the aloofness is an act.

    Tony Gilroy and his casting director have an open invite for me to buy them a drink - they assembled a great cast of film, TV, and stage actors to create a show that has exceeded all of my expectations. Bravo!
     
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    I never thought I'd ever again witness dramatic tension as emotionally powerful as what Peter Jackson put on film in the Helm's Deep scenes prior to the ancient fortress being attacked in LOTR: The Two Towers.

    But it's happened.     The build-up to the Rix Road funeral was filmmaker perfection -- and its from a TV show for crying out loud! Finale = A+
     
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    The gathering of people and the procession for Maarva while the imperials slowly panic was really effective. I also liked that Andor wasn't the initiator of the riot and that he was practically in the background the entire time. It's obvious that deep dissatisfaction was already there and Maarva's speech/ Empire trying to stop it was just the right spark. I am glad that Andor saved Bix and that B2EMO survived.

    Now give me Mando season 3 and Bad Batch. I need some good old fashioned fun and adventure in my Star Wars.
     
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    I loved the excerpts of Nemik's manifesto. "Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks. It leaks. Authority is brittle." Just what I've been saying! :D

    As is sometimes the case, when they try to put all the players on the stage for a finale, a few of the moments of the battle of Rix Road felt superfluous and awkward following the sublime build up. But that does not diminish a great series ending. Particularly Maarva's rallying cry, and Brasso cracking a few skulls with her stone.
     
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    That little smile at the end, worth a Rebellion.

    Listenning Nemik's voice again was joy. Love this character. Such wise and incredie words from his mouth.
    Also it seems Andor left the manifesto, right? Maybe he already had what he needed.

    Interesting. This could make his husband a far better character than he already is. Couod be a great twist. Like it.

    As a known warrior, I tell you we have Willow in 7 days ;) . I know it will not be like adult as Andor but maybe enough fun to feel childs again.
     
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    THIS! ^^^^^ from @Josep5349 followed by THIS! ^^^^^ from @Madmartigan.

    The perfect final shot!
     
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    The funeral procession was SO GOOD!

    That's one thing Andor really excelled at- setting its action pieces in something bigger than themselves. Lets them keep that complex Star Wars feel, without having to spread out the action on dozens of fronts.

    Luthen watching Maarva's postmortem hologram starting one of the biggest revolutions so far in the galaxy thinking "who IS this family?" :p
     
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    Amazing
     
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    Am watching it again.

    The manifesto moment (more real in our world than we think or know), that starts with Bix in a dark cell, follows Luthen in a dark landscape, with the storm, with such incredible words from Nemik of oppression, fear, fight, meanings, freedom, the dark shots, the rain, the loneliness from Andor inside the dark ship, the dark silhouette, and the word TRY, gets me everytime.

    From now on, one of my favourite moments of the saga.
     
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    (Season 2 opens)

    Luthen shoots Andor. Andor dies.

    Title Card: Rogue One never happened.

    Roll credits.
     
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    haha... jokes aside I heard from a credible source that Luthen dies in season 2.
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    This!!!! so true from the heart!

    I've enjoyed Andor, looking forward to season 2 (DEDRA & SYRIL ELECTRiFYING) don't forget to watch the MCU TYPE END CREDITS :D... but (boba fett)(boba fett)(boba fett)(boba fett)(boba fett)THIS^^^^^^^^(duel)
     
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    Ahhh... I guess THIS is why he's not in Rogue 1.
     
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    ANDOR is poetic, he helped to assemble the weapon that killed him... Maarva's speech about how dark the Empire really is... poetic... Rogue One such a dark film... ask Saw Gerrera... whoops he died too...
     
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    Cantinians, thanks so much for your thoughtful posts here, Just finished watching this majestic episode and am processing it....holy crap.

    @Madmartigan I am with you....the tears flowed, AGAIN. Ep 10 , 11, 12 I am without words...

    After Mando I thought to myself they have set the bar so high for SW streaming it will never be matched. I was wrong. It was matched, and exceeded.

    Bar now RESET by ANDOR.
     
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    @Madmartigan @MBWilson I am choked up looking at these...

    Hey....question....have we ever had writing like this before in SW?

    Maarva's monologue as powerful as Luthen's, which followed Kino's perfectly-delivered, supremely emotional speech(es).

    Wow....just wow.....I measure the quality of a cinematic product by how much I rewatch it.....can firmly say these 3 episodes will be watched many many times...
     
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    I share your enthusiasm for Andor, @Lock_S_Foils.

    But I would argue that it's unfair to both Andor & to The Manalorian to compare the two. It's like comparing the original Star Wars to The Godfather. Both are all-time classics in their own right.
     
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