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SPECULATION Old questions from the OT left unanswered...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by master_shaitan, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. King3000

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    I think Disney are using alot of these loose ends gradually in written media and possible spin offs :) Seems its being done much more carefully so far than it was with the EU, everything feels like its being directed well.
     
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    Glad they didn't answer all questions in this movie and didn't answer all in the OT, without that we would have nothing to speculate about. But TFA was not there to answer OT questions they have to expand the galaxy.
     
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    Agreed, a lot of these questions kind of spoil the mystery, no human could make a story sufficient to do those questions justice... as these were probably mysteries to Lucas himself. Which in turn made it more interesting for him no doubt.
     
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    I have a few questions of my own:

    1-How did Luke train from ANH to ESB? He never saw Ben use telekinesis yet he used it on Hoth. Did Ben's ghost guide him or something?

    2-How does Leia say she has memories from her mother when Padme died giving birth to her kids?

    3-Who survived the Sail Barge explosion and the Pit of Carkoon battle now that the EU is no longer canon? We all knew that Tessek, Bib Fortuna, Bossk, The Rebo Band and Boba Fett has survived in the EU but now we have no idea.

    4-Did our main heros become cannibals and eat the roasted Stormtroopers and Imperial Troopers in the Ewok celebration?
     
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    Lol.

    1. They have covered some of the ground in the new books ("Weapon of a Jedi") and the new Marvel comics series. But so far they have not covered all the ground. Though he recovered Obi-Wan Kenobi's journal, so that could be a start.

    2. I guess the Force acted different on her, enabling her to keep a few memories of her mother, though their contact was brief. That is one of the inconsistencies between the OT and the PT, since I have heard a lot of speculation that originally, Padme had lingered around longer than a few minutes in her daughter's life, but it's mostly from the EU/Legends and fan-fiction.
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    My big question is: how long did it take to Luke to get to Dagobah and to the MF to get to Bespin? In ESB I feel like it's just a bunch of hours/days but it has been speculated that it might be longer. (I would expect it to be so.)
     
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    It is said that it took Luke a day to get to Dagobah and it took Han about a week considering that he had a bad hyperdrive.
     
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    1. I always thought that the desperation of the situation made him resort to the force as his only option and showed us something that we didn't know was possible until that point. I'd like to think that many force users over the years have stumbled upon different abilities due to their unique circumstances, and it's nice to know that the force is capable of surprises.

    2. George Lucas

    3. Boba Fett

    4. Yes.
     
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    My young child. It is believed that Lukes journey took course over about a 3 month time span. 2 months at Dagobah. a month to get to cloud city, 3 years before he came to jabbas palace
     
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    Thanks! But I guess the time between the Rebel Fleet after Cloud City in ESB and Jabba's Palace was barely 6 months to a year. The movies were actually 3 years apart but in the storyline there is a shorter period of time in between. The new canon book "Moving Target" covers a part of that period.
     
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    ^^ According to the ESB novelization Luke was 23 years old while in ANH he was 20 years old. The time gap between ESB and ROJ was only 6 months (don't have the exact source available this moment), but already the talk at the end of ESB ("rendezvous point on Tatooine") seems to suggest it might be even less: Lando and Chewie take the Falcon to Tatooine, Lando enlists at Jabba the Hutt's palace, then Luke and Leia follow, Artoo and Threepio become gifts, next Leia shows up with Chewie and so on.
     
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    Hmmm, I really don't know then anymore. I was going off what I was told a while ago from memory. Sorry I stated it in such a matter of fact way. There are a lot of posters on here that know way more than me when it comes to that stuff I'm surprised no one has answered specifically yet.
     
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    The way I always understood it was the Falcon went on a 3 month trip to get to Cloud City. Since they left at the same time and arrived at the same time that would mean Lukes time on Dagobah plus his trip to Cloud City would be the same. Me and other people I've talked to in the past assumed or even had evidence that a couple months on Dagobah was accurate. It's been so long since I thought about it maybe I have my facts mixed up with opinion?

    Anyone know for sure? Can we get some closure on this?
     
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    I would just say he was using his instincts... like Obi wan told him to do while training with the remotes. I don't take things like books too seriously, but I felt "weapon of a Jedi" did a good job of getting precisely into that topic. The book handled it tastefully.

    If I was writing the story to fill in the gap between ANH & ESB... I would have said Luke only saw the Obi wan apparition when we saw it (no pre ESB ghost sightings), though perhaps got vague messages in his mind like the ones we heard at the end of ANH.

    It seemed to me Luke was learning on the fly... like the saber pull he did in ESB Hoth was done out of necessity, he had to get the saber or be lunch. It seems like Rey works the same way.

    Cuz Lucas didn't pay attention to his own story... that was seriously a huge let down in ROTS! The story would have been far more interesting if it showed Leia growing up a bit & seeing Padme succumbing to anguish over time. Just those few lines Leia said about her mother were far more intriguing than what we got... and it would have been more interesting to see why Luke wasn't in the picture.

    In Lucas's defense though, a simple retcon of baby Leia seeing Padme cry on the table would have sufficed to say that her mother was "sad" & "beautiful" (if we could ignore that the cognitive abilities of a newborn probably wouldn't be able to identify that humans have emotions + newborns can't see) but to me the context of the conversation with Luke seemed to imply this relationship lasted more than 1.62 minutes... because if I recall she said she died when Leia was "very young"? To me though when I think of the phrase "very young"... a 1.62 minute old newborn doesn't come to mind. Leia would have just said "she died in child birth".

    While I've heard people talk about the ewoks savagely using the heads of storm troopers as drums... I don't think that was Lucas's intention... I think those were all just hollow pieces of armor & that whatever imperials survived either surrendered & were being held captive or perhaps were allowed to join the rebellion?
     
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    You make some very valid points my friend and I agree with most of them. The only one I have to disagree on is regarding the Ewoks as I do think they munched on the Imperials. You have to remember that it was these same crazy bears who were going to roast Han and eat him in a banquet in honor of C3PO. If they would have said they were going to fry Han as a offering it is one thing but those little furry beasts were going to make Han the main course of their party!
     
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    I'm sure the ewoks would be fine with that, but I'd have trouble respecting the heroes if they were ok singing and dancing while imperials were being rotisseried.

    edit: for typo.
     
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    My BIGGEST question ... WHAT HAPPENED TO BARON PAPONOIDA ?!
     
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    What became of Tatooine after Jabba died?
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    Maybe the planet Luke is on in TFA is Yoda's homeplanet?
     
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    I'd like to think that Luke received a lot of training from Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon between ESB and RotJ. Also being that he was the son of Anakin would give him the added advantage of being able to learn the Force and other skills at an accelerated rate.
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    I heard he sold his life's work to the Empire and retired. Later he regretted it lol.
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    Probably other gangsters took over the criminal trade there, or maybe Rotta the Hutt took over and rebuilt his dad's criminal empire.
     
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