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SPECULATION Oscar Isaac/Adam Driver - could they be brothers?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Keith, Dec 22, 2014.

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    We have always considerd one or the other to be Han and Leias son...and then Daisey Ridley as the daughter.

    What if Han and Leia had 3 children?

    If they did...I could see really strong character relations developing and possible inner conflict among siblings. Lets say this is true for a moment...

    You have Oscar Isaac who appears to be a young Han Solo by his looks. He appears to be an adept pilot, evidenced by the trailer...and its likely that he is suave like Han, (and to a fault)...a bit too arrogant. He appears to have all the makings of the "first born child" if this theory were true. He sets a standard that his younger brother cannot live up to, (He would represent characteristics of Han from the family tree)

    Adam Driver...easy to see that he could play that "ugly duckling" kind of role in the family. Perhaps Han favors Isaac because he sees so much of himself in him? Perhaps Driver holds resentment towards the elder brother for this? Having these emotions and feelings over a long period...maybe THAT would be a reason he pursues the dark side of the force? His weakness (suceptibility to his feelings) would show correltations to Anakin on his mothers side in the family tree. Ofcourse this would just be the tip of the iceburg for why he turns...but important nontheless. It would get the audience feeling bad for him, sympathizing to his cause to an extent...could be interesting.

    Daisley Ridley - I see her as always finding herself in the middle of the two brothers - almost acting like a mediator, but also could be part of the conflict (e.g. driver competes for her affection because thats always made him feel comforted with his feelings of inferiortity to his brother...perhaps they're twins that came after isaac- also would indicate their relationship could be closer) maybe she sides with isaac on something and that pushes him over the edge? Lets flip that around and say her and isaac are the twins...which would alienate driver even MORE...its likely shes that "perfect" kind of child too? Maybe he just doesnt quite fit in.... I dunno, but no matter what I could see her being the redemption seeker if he turned to the dark side...representing Luke in the family tree.
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    What originally made me think of this theory is that both Isaac and Driver appear to be Xwing pilots. If Driver is indeed going to play a villain at some point...how does he go from being an X-wing pilot to the evil guy wielding a lightsaber?? We've only seen one person turn from the light to the dark side...Anakin. Anakin turned out of fear of losing the person he loved. I think its safe to say that this WON'T be copied....so what other reasons could make someone turn? Resentment and a lacking of self worth - a desire to be stronger, to overcome ones weaknesses and shame??. It would give the person new-found confidence. Tools to overcome their lackings. I could see Drivers character (assuming he was this uglyduckling like family member) seeing the path of the darkside as a means to ONE UP his brother...to earn the respect he feels he deserves from his father OR just out of anger and resentment and wanting to destroy those that that are responsible for his feelings of inferiority?. Of course...none of this would be the main reasons...(we dont know the plot points) but I could see these being underlying reasons that we might be able to see and understand through some of the dialogue.

    Thoughts?

    (In case you didn't notice - this theory does share a little in common with THOR...but its a theme we see a lot in stories all through out history...we see it a lot because it works. many people can relate to the relationship between siblings)

    We've always heard that the ST would be about the Solo's...but its all been speculation as to who they are. I think most of us thought it would be 2 children to correlate with Luke/Leia...but I see 3.
     
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    I'm hoping niether is related is Han's kid simply to broaden the universe.
     
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    I dont understand? How would this "broaden" the universe? If there is no STRONG character development, with deep meaningful relatonships...then the story is that of the PT. Didnt the PT do enough as to expanding the universe - (giving us a ton of characters we could care less about) already?

    If you're merely stating you wish that these are all independent characters separate of the main 3 from the ST....I still don't see how that necessarily "broadens the universe"...theres going to be 3 people,introduced no matter what - how does it matter who they're related to?
     
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    Broadening by letting a new generation of an unrelated Legacy have it's mark in force, instead of a galaxy made of billions of planets still centred on the Skywalker bloodline.
     
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    Great stuff, Keith. Thanks for getting my wheels spinning.
     
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    Why do we have to "broaden" the star wars universe? There are trillions of living beings in the star wars universe. They can't all possibly be on film. They introduce new awesome character with each movie, cartoon shows, and the EU books/comics.

    For the films we just get the distinct pleasure of following around the most interesting family..."force royalty"

    I wouldn't want it any other way...
     
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    I put aside my belief that Han and Leia never were a couple after ROTJ, just friends that parted.

    If they actually marry, and have kids.... .WHY NOT?

    STAR WARS has to stick to the Skywalker lineage. If not, it just weakens the OT and the PT. Moreover, it renders the appearance of Old Hamill, Princess Organs and Han Solo in the ST.

    There has to be a link between characters.

    If Driver and Isaac are Bros, though, it shuts up the rumors floating around they could have a romantic relationship in Episode VII.

    Unless it is your worst twisted Disney Nightmare since The Black Cauldron.
     
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    I think I would prefer them being brothers, not ready for a gay rebel pilot relationship.

    Please Disney...don't do it!
     
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    I think tI mixed up characters/actors names here.
     
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    Well put.

    ...and LMAO at your ending comments.
     
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    I really like your theory except for one thing: I'm hoping that Poe Dameron, and not Finn, will be romantically-involved with Rey. I just don't think Finn and Rey would have any on-screen chemistry.
     
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    I think the dynamic of jealousy and resentment may play a part. My own theory is that Poe is more like the son Han wanted. Where as Kylo goes through the motions but would rather wield actual power like his Grandfather did to tame and make order from the chaos of the galaxy. No empire does not mean peace breaks out it means there is no check on the ambitions of the mofs, criminal gangs and resurgent economic intrests. It could be that without an empire things are more "free" but free like the wild west not free from fear and lacking in real security beyond your blaster. I don't think they will be brothers. Poe looks enough like Driver but not enough like Fisher or Ford to pull off being their biological son and Driver looks a lot like Ford.
     
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    ooo. I like it. Ya the "son that he always wanted" makes perfect sense. still could have all the same reasoning and emotions behind it all just that theyre not biological relatives. good stuff.
     
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    Is it even confirmed that any of these people are Solo/Skywalker offspring? Maybe it's just Driver and Isaac that brothers. Maybe only one of these characters are the son or daughter of a Solo or Skywalker. I think those who are talking about "broadening the universe" are just afraid, and rightfully so, of too much "soap opera" in their favorite space opera. Actually, nothing would make me happier than for all this speculation to be way off.
     
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    Which speculation they don't all work together?

    I can understand the fear of everyone being related to someone from the OT. But I would be very upset if there were no children of the OT. The simple fact that family legacy has place a part in 6 movies having none seems wayyyy off.

    I think there needs to be the right mix.

    I would also say that the ideas of children of the OT is old news like it or not the EU has had children of the Big three out there for decades. 5 or 6 of them. I am hoping for one Kylo Ren. If a second one I hope its Kylo and Rey. But that is only because of the movie I am writing in my head.
     
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