SPECULATION Compilation Theory

I want to start this theory by stating a few things.

First, not much in this theory is new. I just thought it'd be fun to put it all together in one thread.
Second, I try not to read rumors or spoilery stuff, so if any of this seems too wrong according to those spoilers, now you know why.
Third, there WILL be spoilers for The Clone Wars, Rebels, and Dark Disciple, but I tried to be pretty vague
Fourth, this thread is made for purely speculation and fun. I don't believe in it but I think it could be a fun idea to entertain.
Fifth, I blame my current roaming of the internet for A Song of Ice and Fire (tinfoil) theories for this.

Just to repeat, this theory was made for fun and entertainment, don't take it too seriously. Ok? Ok, on to the theory!!

So, this came about after rereading a controversial theory that stated Luke might have met Snoke before and possibly trained with him either after The Empire Strikes Back or after Return of the Jedi. I'd like to add onto that and say that not only did Luke train with him for a time, we know Snoke's identity. Snoke is Ezra Bridger from Star Wars Rebels. Not only that, but Max Von Sydow's character is Kanan Jarrus.

But how'd that come to be? First, we need to look at Ezra's character and some parallels between the Skywalker boys, Kenobi, Ezra, and Kanan.

By the end of the first season of Rebels, Ezra has not only progressed immensely in his Jedi and Force training (to the point it actually intimidates his master), he has fought against a Dark Side user (and in the season two premiere, Darth Vader himself), used the Dark Side himself, and gained a rad pair of scars. Now this might not seem like much, but remember, this is ONLY THE FIRST SEASON. I don't think that Rebels will last the length of The Clone Wars, but that seems like a pretty big learning curve for a few episodes and months of training. Scars the first season, maybe a larger battle scar the next or the next few, and a debilitating injury in the final season. Anakin went through a similar path in Episodes II and III - first the loss of an arm/hand, a scar on his eye, and then mortally wounded in the end.

Speaking of Skywalkers, let's discuss the parallels between their paths and Ezra's. A male youth on an outlier planet, with a mysterious power fortunately crosses paths with a wise mentor who offers to teach and train them to use their power. They meet a potential love interest and go off to make an impact on the galaxy. This sounds more like Luke than Anakin, and it's not a lot to work with, I know, but let's see if we can break it down some more.

Ezra is definitely molded in the pattern of Luke (or Aladdin with the whole street rat thing, but that's neither here nor there), but his growth pattern feels more like Anakin's with the use of the Dark Side.

Kanan is most definitely Obi-Wan Kenobi, but a he's a mix of both the PT and the OT Kenobi. When we first meet Kanan in "A New Dawn," Kanan is a lot like OT Kenobi. Kanan has fought in the Clone Wars and has been scarred by it. He's hiding out, trying to keep a low profile to survive and figuring out his next move as each day comes. It isn't until he gets a Call to Action by a young beautiful heroine (fortunately for him this one is actually in his age range) that he remembers who he is and goes off to help save the day. The Rebels Kanan is more like the PT Obi-Wan, who's willing to bend the rules a little more to get what needs to be done, done. Aggressive Negotiations, so to speak. At the same time, he likes the status quo he's in currently and doesn't feel the need to change. The change is forced on him.

So, let's change the parable a little bit then. We've got a powerful young Force user paired up with an older mentor who never really graduated to the rank of Knight, or at least, not by conventional means (I don't think your master dying in the middle of a mission and battle charging you with training said Force user counts as conventional). The master and apprentice fight in battles, earn scars and victories, suffer losses and grow as close as family. Then, the apprentice ends up going rogue and his loved ones and the people of the galaxy pay for it. Now, most of this is Anakin's story, but a lot of this fits Ezra just as well, and what doesn't fit might be prediction of what's to come.

But how does this all relate back to Snoke and MvS? I'd like to point to a character, a quote, and a flaw.

In "The Empire Strikes Back," Yoda claims that Luke is the "last of the Jedi," and Obi-Wan remarks that "there is another." While it would be pretty epic if that Other was Ezra, it's safe to assume he meant Leia. So that means something happened to Ezra and Kanan right? What happened then? Death is one answer, but it's also the easiest and not that entertaining, so I say that neither one of them died - Ezra lost his way and Kanan ran. Currently, Ezra has fought two Dark Side users and is primed to fight two more. This is during a war where sometimes good people have to do bad things, and we've seen that not go over so well with some characters (Barriss Offee and Quinlan Vos come to mind). However, we've also seen Dark Side users come to the Light, or at least become neutral and/or balance both Dark and Light (Asajj Ventress and again Quinlan Vos).

So Ezra loses his way during the war and goes off on his own. Luke, disillusioned himself meets up with Ezra and together they train for a bit before each goes off on their own path. Or they fight and Ezra/Snoke loses. A lot of potential things could have happened and this is simply a theory that they met and trained, not that they fought. But where does Kanan fit into this theory?

I think Kanan runs off and once again disregards a part of his identity in hiding. He's done it before, so why not do it again. Would this happen after Rebels or during it? I don't know, but it could happen. And let's add bonus points if he's hiding to protect somebody/something other than himself.

Thus the cycle of the failed mentor and "evil" student repeats itself. Also, this would fit with the Obi-Wan/Old Mentor trope for the ST as well - you've got a wizened old veteran who promises to guide, help and/or train a youth with potential who then kicks the bucket, but not before making a lasting impact. Just like Qui-Gon Jin. Just like Obi-Wan Kenobi. It should also be pointed out that Han Solo could also fit this role, as could Luke Skywalker himself, but if the rumors (that I try not to pay attention to) are true, it seems like Luke is playing more of a Yoda-esque role (and I'm just personally hoping Han doesn't die).

Anyways, so that's my little pet theory. I know there are tons and tons of plot and theoretical holes, but I wanted to get it out there. So, what do you think? Good? Bad? Crazy? Too long? I shouldn't nearly waste this much time thinking of something so improbable? Let me know!

 

@Lazlo and @Wayne thank you both so much for your comments and not posting spoilers haha!

@Lazlo, your theory about introducing Snoke as an inquisitor would be pretty cool and introducing him on Rebels would be pretty creative too! As for DisneyXD going too dark, for the most part I agree with you, but after watching shows like Gravity Falls and Star vs The Forces of Evil (it was on and I didn't feel like getting up...plus the first of those two shows is seriously funny and mature for a kid's show), I wouldn't put it too far past them. I could see them showing Ezra going evil but not necessarily doing evil things. Or maybe he just flirts with the Dark Side and redeems himself later.

@Wayne, don't all of the new Expanded Universe comics and shows do that anyways? For me at least, that's one of the reasons why I read all of the stuff. As for regular movie-goers, I don't think they'd need all of that information. A quick minute or two summary explaining how Luke and Snoke met or Snoke and MvS' character's background with a name drop could be enough (kind of like Jor-El explaining his and Zod's background in Man of Steel to Clark).

The a main problem I have with the theory (and yes I know I posted it but I can't overlook it's own flaws) is that I'm pretty sure I read in an article or something Dave Filoni saying that none of his animated character have made it to the big screen yet, but if they wanted to all they needed to do was ask (or something along those lines). So more likely than not Snoke isn't Ezra. However, if the (admittedly unlikely and probably debunked) rumor about Sabine being in Rogue One is true, maybe she dies and that sets Ezra off on a dark path...?

@TheFettMan, I think your theory about Rey or Finn being the true chosen one is interesting, but I feel like that would take too much away from the OT and the PT, and Anakin and Luke's story overall. Yoda wanting to shield Luke sounds about right though.

 

@Wayne Ohh! That's a good theory on why Snoke would have the mask if he has it! Enjoy The Clone Wars to the fullest; I can only enjoy it vicariously through my friends now (re-re-watching episodes doesn't feel the same anymore). And having him be and Inquisitor could explain why they created the Inquisitors in the first place. I mean, having someone to fight a force user is needed for a Star Wars show, but when you've already introduced assassin's like Ventress and have the Emperor's Hand from the old EU, the Inquisitors seem a little superfluous. Then again, maybe they brought in the Inquisitors so they wouldn't have to deal with fan disappointment if they used the Emperor's Hand group and never brought back Mara Jade. But that's neither here nor there.

Thanks for your comments again.

 

@BaronSoontirFel nah that's not too much of a spoiler since the Vanity Fair article covered it. I guess when I mean I don't pay attention to spoilers, I mean more of the spoiler threads like "Confirmation of Luke's Hand," "Major Character Deaths," "Battle of Takodana," and "This is the what the next trailer will be!" stuff. There's nothing wrong with them (except for that "next trailer" thread! I read the first one that was like "there's the old 'Use the Force' theme playing over shots of the characters and at the end you'll hear a girls voice say 'Wake Up,'" and that was so incorrect!).

Ezra could be one because of a grievous injury and/or reconstruction that would be hard to do with simple prosthetic and makeup. Maybe they wanted Andy Serkis, but he didn't fit the look they had designed for where Ezra was going to go and so they made it the way they did.

Anyways, thanks for pointing out that flaw in the theory!