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Dividedness in the last Jedi

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Dr Jerrone, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. Dr Jerrone

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    Before I get this in the comments below, dividedness is a real word.

    In The Last Jedi plenty of things get divided or split in two or into several parts. While I thought it was just something that happened often, upon further inspection it happens way more often than I remembered during my first few watches in the theater. Additionally, a couple of divisions are alluded to by others.

    Please feel free to add to this list in the comments below.

    -Snoke is cut in two
    -The blade that cut Snoke in two is split in half while it is cinematically right over Snoke's divided body
    -The Supremacy is split in two by the Raddus
    -Other ships in the First Order fleet experience similar division from the ensuing debris
    -Leia, while Force pulling herself back to the Raddus, divides the hologram of the Supremacy
    -The rock that Rey is training in front of is split in two
    -The mosaic of the Prime Jedi depicts the entity vertically divided with the light and dark
    -The Crait rebel base door is split in half by the battering ram cannon though this one could be argued
     
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    Rian seems to have implemented more stuff like that in his movie. He also likes to show us hands. This his his way of symbolism.
     
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    To bad none got severed. Another kill the past decision. Unless u count Phasma's in bonus material.
     
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    What about Snoke's hands? ;D
     
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    People are reading way too much into the kill the past stuff. It's not literal. It's not like the film presents Kylo Ren to be in the right. The truth is in the middle, honoring the past while pushing for the future. That's the film symbolism from the first scene to the last. Literally.

    RJ did respect a lot of Star Wars traditions. The severed hands is one of them. He didn't film one but TWO. Phasma's scene obviously didn't make it, but it's obvious Snoke's hand being cut like that wasn't a coincidence. Also, there's no severed hand in EVERY film, so I don't see the problem even if there wasn't one in TLJ.
     
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    Well people only made a "big deal" out of it because it just so happened to happen in the 2nd act of both trilogies. In my view, nothing that is seen on screen is by coincidence. A director isn't gonna go, "hey how did that get there?"
     
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    I've always looked at Leia's cutting through Supremacy while pulling off her Mary Poppins force ability as foreshadowing Holdo ramming Raddus through Supremacy.
    This one is a bit out there but I kinda feel R2-D2 projecting Leia had multiple purposes as it may have also hinted Luke towards projecting himself to Kylo.
     
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    Huh, it's almost like they foretold what would happen to the fandom...


    In all seriousness, interesting finds. I particularly want to check out Leia going through the Supremacy. I never noticed that, but that's excellent foreshadowing!
     
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    After I've been told this happens in film it becomes really obvious. She also flies through in roughly the same place as The Raddus.
     
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    Agreed, maybe I should've worded it, "Leia flies through the Supremacy hologram in the same way the Raddus flies through it later in the film."

    Interesting on the R2 Leia projection. I always thought the 'face down the First Order with a laser sword' line had more to do with that scene but I can see the hologram fitting that as well.
     
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    Por que no los dos indeed.
     
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    Leia flying through the Supremacy would have been foreshadowing if Leia had been the one to pilot the Raddus on it's suicide.
    I still question why that didn't happen, or why it wasn't Akbar.

    Not criticizing, just questioning.
     
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    Oh my i forgot! How silly 0f me! Mother of moons!
     
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    Leia doesn't have to pilot the Raddus for that to be foreshadowing. It's an indication of a future event. The future event is the Supremacy gets cut in two.
     
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    @cawatrooper, dang it! I was about to say a similar thing!

    This is some compelling discussion right here! I think this concept goes hand in hand with the concept of balance that The Last Jedi presents. One of my favorite things about Star Wars is how they go about foreshadowing and symbolism, especially with visuals.
     
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    divided and/or complementary.
    • the caretakers are all female: their men are out of sea and only return once in the season (deleted scene/novel explains more).
    • the FO is apparently divided along generations; the old guard does not care for the new guard and they have radically different styles/ambitions.
    • before Snoke put Ben and Rey into each other's line of vision, they were already joined in the Force; they came together, but now they are divided.
    • the Skywalker twins were divided throughout the ST, then joined briefly, and now divided again one last time.
    • DJ is a character divided in his loyalties/honor.
    could probably go on and on.
     
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