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Fims about heroes that we know how they gona die

Discussion in 'Solo' started by McDiarmid, Jun 1, 2018.

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Bringing standalon films about characters with already known scenario of their death is:

Poll closed Jul 17, 2020.
  1. 1.negative factor for such standalone films

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  2. 2.doesn't influence prospects of standalone films

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  3. 3.actuually its positive factor of such films

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  1. McDiarmid

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    Let us talk about strategic decision to kill Solo in ep VII. and than bring Solo restrospective story,for which we know it ends sadly, he is killed by his own son.
    So everyone knows how Solo ends.

    This putts Solo film in strange position,everyone knows how lead character ends.
    And its a sad end.

    Does this have influence on attractivity of such standalone films?

    This is also debate about Kenobi( we know how he dies, and we know also he kills Maul), and all such films in preparation. Though, anlike Solo Kenobi ended his life in more positive conotation.

    Is this negative factor? I think its negative factor for such films.

    Has Disney calculated this factor in ?
     
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    If the story is good enough, knowing the final fate of a character shouldn't be that much of an issue. Look at the movies about historical figures.
    As for Han Solo, "fans" keep calling him a "mystical figure" and, at the same time, keep arguing how much they hate the idea of recasting and how they don't want a movie about his backstory. Well, he either isn't a "mystical figure" at all, or I don't see any problems with recasting or backstory movies.
     
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    Yes of course but on top of that, if main hero's destiny will be anticipated I think it would be additional positive factor.
    Example, one of he reasons why people are gona see Rey and Kylo is to see their destiny.
    Han's destiny is defined thus I think Solo film(films) lacks that additional factor.

    Interesting thing will be let say for upcoming Boba Fett if he would be shown to have survived Sarlac's pit.

    Also, please note supporting "cameo"character in Solo
    Maul
    , even for him we know how he ends.
     
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    It's not about the character's death or end, no it's about the knowledge that the character won't die in the prequel. This is the real problem of prequels, the stakes aren't high enough for certain characters.

    We can't tell whether it's sad or not. We have to wait for Kylo's fate to answer this.
     
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    I agree with that.
     
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    Spoiler...they are all likely dead they told you from the jump that this is a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

    The boat was already sank in Titanic but it is still the second highest grossing film of all time.

    The key is to tell a good and compelling story and less checking off cannon event boxes.

    With this though my primary theory is nothing this deep is the key.

    I say start out with getting a handle on the effectiveness of the marketing to general audiences and brutal levels of direct competition and worry about getting into the weeds later with pet theories later.
     
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