SPECULATION Han Dropped Rey Off?

one possible idea, but arjank and me had some brainstorming today and maybe something interesting came out. Spoiler tags in case we may be onto something:

Spoiler

Pablo once tweeted that Rey's abandonment on Jakku and the academy massacre are not necessairly connected and Pablo now also tweeted that the accessability to Luke prior to the thought 6 years may be more. I came up with this:

Snoke + Ben (since he was a target of Snoke from early years according Leia) first had to get rid of Luke. So they captured Rey (either Luke's daughter or Han/Leia's small daughter or the daughter of Luke's best students). Then they threatened to kill her, if Luke doesn't leave (therefore the sad goodbye to R2 and Luke probably never able to tell the whole truth to Han/Leia). After Luke was marooned/forced to exile, Kylo was ordered to kill Rey, but he still felt a pull to the lightside, so he abandonded her on Jakku without telling Snoke. After this Kylo was ordered to attack Luke's students and he killed them all. Since Luke was already marooned, he could not help. From then on Han/Leia probably only had contact to Luke via holo message, but these were faked by Snoke and instead Kylo/Ben was the whole time with Snoke.

 

And Luke would have risk his life to save his friends on Bespin and didn't move a finger for his daughter ?

Rey escaped alone by herself from Jakku so I guess a rescue plan was possible.

 

No reason to put spoiler tags on speculation. Luke leaves because they're going to kill Rey so he leaves with no assurances she'll survive? Also, he didn't leave everything until Rey was 15 years old. This doesn't really work.

 

as I said, I think the vision/pic of Luke putting the hand on R2 is 15 years ago and Luke left there (was forced to leave). Then Snoke communicated to Han/Leia via holo messages as Luke and tricked them. The temple attack happened later, but Luke was already long gone.

 

This assumes that Han Solo/Leia haven't seen Luke in person for 15 years? I don't think that's possible.

 

So he left his younglings for 10 years alone before the temple attack ?

I don't get it.

All those threads are like Ok I have to make 1 + 1 = 3 because 3 is the only acceptable outcome.

 

we have in bloodline that Leia only communicates with Luke via holo. We have Han saying 'people who knew him best', Han remembering Ben as a teen. This all suggests to me that Han/Leia did not see Luke&Ben for a long time, at least not in person.

 

I should amend what I said... it's possible. It's just not very likely Luke has been hiding for 15 years. Are they really going to make the story about Luke the Jedi coward? And he's only in hiding because someone on the Dark Side said "we won't kill her if you leave." I'll give you a marks for originality, but it just doesn't really make sense.

 

Maybe it's not exactly what nightangel and I came up with and there's more to it but maybe some parts could point into the right direction.
This is also the moment I realized that it's Ben who brought Rey to Jakku and said "sweetheart".

Btw. some time ago I created this timeline about what may have happened
Maybe I need to tweak it again.

 

What in the movie could make you think like this ?

 

You mean "sweetheart" ? That's only in the novel and audiobook

 

No I mean you saying you were in the right direction ...

You ? A scavenger ? Not You ? The girl I left on Jakku ?

 

Han Solo abandoning Rey on Jakku may be true from a certain point of view. For this to work, I actually think it must involve the Falcon, since it is also curiously on Jakku. Assuming for the sake of this scenario that Rey is the daughter of Han and Leia:

While Leia is attending to her continued political and/or Resistance battles, Han Solo has custody of a very young Rey while flying around the galaxy in the Falcon. Being the scoundrel at heart that he is, he gets into some sort of trouble where he has to leave Rey on the Falcon, saying, "Stay here. I'll come back for you, sweetheart. I promise." However, while he is attending to the emergency, Ducain steals the Falcon from him (as payment for a past debt) not knowing Rey is onboard. Maybe Rey hides in the smuggling compartments. The Irving Boys then steal it from Ducain. And of course Unkar Plutt "steals" it from the professional thieves, the Irving Boys.

In other words, Rey is the unintended victim of a car jacking.

It helps explain why from that time forward, Han Solo goes back to his scoundrel/smuggling ways while he and Chewie go "looking for the Falcon" aka looking for his daughter. It also helps explain why he has trouble going back to Leia. Not only does he remind her of their fallen-to-the-dark side son, but he feels responsible for also losing their daughter... I can imagine a scenario where each of the two children had a stronger bond with the other parent: Ben with Leia due to their shared Force sensitivity, Rey with Han for whatever reason. It also helps explain why Ben has some ill will toward his father, who he sees as weak and foolish, in part for losing his sister. Maybe this isn't the true family dynamic, but I can't help but think that there must have been some as-yet-unknown family tragedy that helped contribute to Ben's fall.

However, under this scenario, one cannot imagine why Rey would not know who she really is, not to mention that none of this helps explain why Han seems somewhat calloused toward Rey (and Finn) when he first encounters her on the Falcon, especially after they trace the custody of the Falcon amongst the various thieves. All in all, I don't think Han Solo being the one who uttered these words ("I'll come back for you, sweetheart.") to her is probable, but it does pose an interesting question as to how it all could work with what we do know...

 

How could it involve the Falcon, Han searched for it for years and never get there ?

A car jacking really ? And to celebrate the return of his long lost loved daughter, he wanted to throw her in an escape pod ?

 

The carjacking idea might work if it were some cargo kid Han had been hired to transport, and the ship got jacked, maybe the parents get killed. He'd've felt bad, but he moves on. Rarely wonders whatever happened to that poor kid. Probably returned to relatives on Corruscant where she was from.

 

Did you read my entire post where I wrote in essence that this was a weakness in any such theory related to Han Solo being the one who drops her off/abandons her on Jakku?!?

 

Yes, that's why I edited my answer.

But really, those theories are awful.

 

Okay... your edited answer seems to ignore that fact entirely.

In any event, the theory that Han Solo was the one who told her "I'll come back for you, sweetheart" wasn't mine... and I was just playing along on a potential scenario in which it could be true without him being a completely heartless jackhole of a father. But if you don't like the game the thread is based on, so be it. Have a nice day.

 

I'll take a look tomorrow, it's late and I took two pills to sleep and I can barely type a word. No offense it is my bad.

Good night.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 10, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 10, 2016 ---

Can we imagine Leia had a Schmi experience and have a child without father ?