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SPECULATION Hyper Speculation on Luke and Dice's Battlefront

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by slothxscvm, Jun 25, 2015.

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    Ok, so I realize that this is a total stretch but I'm looking for any hopeful info on Luke in TFA. I refuse to believe that MSW has it "completely" right.

    To quote Greg Grunberg, "We got our script pages, only the scenes that we were in. Not even what was being shot that day! It was all on red paper so we couldn’t copy it or take a picture of it. And then we had to give the script pages back at the end of the day."

    Now, what is the likelihood that anybody has seen a rough cut of TFA besides JJ, Kasdan, Bob Iger, and the editing team? Why would anybody *risk* their job to bring us *the fans* spoilers? Luke is honestly the most important aspect of this film for me personally. I don't believe for a second that he will have a brief cameo in the film. After all, how awful would you feel if Han died in TFA and we never saw him, alongside Leia and Luke again after ROTJ?

    Earlier I was checking out EA's Battlefront website and reading about the playable heroes and villains in which they've announced thus far.

    "The ultimate Hero in the Star Wars franchise, Luke Skywalker is a powerful yet acrobatic character who of course fights off the opposition armed with his Lightsaber - a Jedi’s weapon."

    Could this be a POSSIBLE hint that Luke will not be evil or a saddened, depressed, old man that has secluded himself from a galaxy in need like many rumors have suggested? They've already announced DLC entitled 'The Battle of Jakku'. Who's the think that more TFA DLC won't be included?

    Source: http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/bat...r-darth-vader-boba-fett-and-more?sf38633496=1

    PS: Yeah, I seemingly have an unhealthy obsession with figuring out WTF is up with Luke in this movie.
     
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    Perhaps that's the game, to insinuate heavily it's just one brief glimpse then his limited role is softened. I had also read that there was some discussion of giving two of the OT just limited roles in each film to highlight one character, this is the Han film. The film is largely about him and who I think will wind up being his daughter. Indeed the paternal sacrifice to save his daughter (much like what gets enraged by Luke at the mention of Leia) could be a cool parallel.

    Mythic, unknown, perhaps even tragic, I actually really like the idea of that being Luke's disposition in the film. Heroes must fall to rise again, it's a time old tale, it could totally work. Yoda and OB1's disposition begin this way in the OT, there's a parallel there.

    So I am with you I don't think the MSW has it all correct, but Luke's portrayal (or lack thereof) doesn't trouble me too much. I like everything I've seen and read about Rey and Finn so far. I say that as a deep skeptic heading into some of the previous films. The reason I don't think the MSW is entirely correct is NOT because I don't like it, because overall I do, I just know even six months out on all films before this, fan spoilers were still slightly off, but also that they were generally more right from wrong.

    EDIT - I don't think Luke is fully defeated, he's just waiting for someone to find him, to embrace their destiny much like Yoda waits for Luke to awake and find him. "The Force Awakens" kinda alludes to that. Just a thought.
     
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    I agree with you that it's unlikely that Luke will only have a cameo. However, the heroes you can use in battlefront are no indication of anything, in battlefront 2 you could use many heroes from the PT and the OT against each other.
     
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    Oh I'm aware, I was just intrigued by the quote on the website, "The ultimate hero in the Star Wars franchise".
     
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    Oh I see what you mean, still I would argue Luke is already "The ultimate hero in the Star Wars franchise".
     
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    Some rumors just suggest that he's evil, haha. If he's the "ultimate hero in the Star Wars franchise", he's not gonna be evil in the ST.
     
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    That one person will be Rey.
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    Luke's time has come and gone. The true ultimate hero of Star Wars WILL be Rey.
     
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    Indeed that is possible, but I still feel that from a classical sense, Luke is the greatest hero in the Star Wars franchise.
     
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    This is what I call a Babe Ruth vs. Jackie Robinson discussion, it's not entirely quantifiable or scientific but it can reveal your generational bias and even reveal clues as to the reasons why you love baseball.

    I wager Rey is outstanding in this film and she'll be one of the core reasons why the film will work.

    Luke will still be my favorite, because Episode IV can transport me back to 1977 in an instant and the wonder for seeing that incredible film for the first time. That's the only measurement that matters, but this is often at the core of how people chime in on "Babe Ruth vs. Jackie Robinson" debates. I mean how does one truly measure, even baseball statistics can't necessarily translate to contribution to the sport.

    Han helping Rey meet her destiny, at such great expense, is now at the core of Rey's determination to become as great as the generation before. Man, this film could totally work if it is done well.

    Therein lies the risk though, a lot of this film's appeal rests on us liking Rey as a character. My money is on Daisy Ridley's talent to pull it off.
     
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    Don't worry, it will happen. Rey will be the greatest character of Star Wars and we will see the magic and nostalgia of the originals back. The ST will surpass the PT and the OT because of Rey's character.
     
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    Luke has always been considered the ultimate hero in Star Wars. Your reading way too much into it.
     
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    No. I'm not. If Luke were evil in TFA, he would no longer be "the ultimate hero of the Star Wars franchise". This is the point that I was trying to make in this thread, along with the fact that DLC regarding TFA is being released.
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    I understand what you are trying to say but it was mentioned the battle of jakku takes place around a year after ROTJ and TFA takes place around 30 years later, so plenty of time for Luke to go evil (I don't think there is any chance he will though).
     
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    Rey will be the ultimate and true hero of Star Wars. She is the real Chosen One and will bring the force back into real balance.
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    This will be Daisy Ridley's breakout role and she will have more great roles and the greatest acting career of the 3 leads. She will help usher in an era of strong female heroes. The era of the male hero will be declining while the strong female will rise to greater numbers. Daisy will play more strong female hero roles. This is a world of female empowerment and leadership and the decline and downfall of men.
     
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    As far as Battlefront goes, I think the only solid info we'll get on TFA is through the Battle of Jakku DLC. Most of the ships and characters we've seen are already established OT players and unfortunately they're staying away from PT stuff, at least initially (The PT maps in Battlefront 2 were some of my favorite).

    I do think the Battle of Jakku is going to be more significant than we're being led to believe. I don't think it's going to be just another skirmish, I think that the events that take place at Jakku are going to be important plot points. Not just explaining why there's junk and settlers on the planet, but I think that battle is going to be the beginning of the First Order and a lot of other things we might see in TFA.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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    um I'm a woman, why can't there just be balance in our own forces; sexuality, race, religion and gender? Don't have to get all extremist here.
     
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    Yes you are. Luke isn't gonna be evil in TFA. ;)
     
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    You clearly cannot read if you were under ANY impression that I personally think that Luke will be evil in TFA.
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    I agree completely!
     
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    Oh I know what your saying.

    What im saying is that Battlefronts hero discription has nothing to do Luke in TFA.

    So if your looking at that as evidence that Luke won't be evil, then I think your reading into it too much.
     
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    I'm desperate and looking for anything to back up the theory that he 1. Will have a larger role than many have reported 2. Will be a powerful Jedi at the least, as much as I want his character to fill the "Grand Jedi Master" role 3. Will not be evil, because let's be honest. That would be baaaaad.
     
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