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More moderator policing in Prequel threads

Discussion in 'Forum News, Rules & Regulations' started by Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi

    Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi Rebel Official

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    Whenever I read all the comments on Prequel-related threads, I am shocked and appalled to see how brutal and vulgar the hate comments can get.
    I am not suggesting the comments should be edited or removed because of "free speech." What does concern me is that I (and I suspect many like me) are reluctant to even comment there anymore for fear of getting slapped with the "pessimistic" or "disagree" comment for simply expressing our love for Episodes I-III.
    My solution? More moderators commenting in these forums to keep the haters in check. Negative commenters, I noticed, are less likely to down-vote a moderator.
     
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  2. Merman

    Merman Rebelscum

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    I totally agree. You can't enter a prequel related post without getting a bunch of negative quotes which many times come from people who are not even participating in the conversation. Just yesterday I wrote to a moderator about this but I still haven't heard from him. I have seen fellow posters start a regular debate about the prequels and they are flamed in nasty ways. People here are sometimes extremely rude and when they are proven wrong they get real personal. This happens alot in the PT vs TFA threads. I am really starting to dislike this cause you can't say anything positive prequel related without some random paserby just looking at the post, not saying anything at all and then giving you negative quotes just because you say something positive about the PT that's better than the other movies.
     
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  3. Bradford Tyllestad

    Bradford Tyllestad Rebel General

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    Disagree is a neutral grade. I on the other hand got two "dislikes" and one "trolling" when I suggested Disney should erase PT from canon, but who cares? Whining over neutral grades though is just ... whining. In my humble opinion.

    When I marked a mod's reply in said thread as "off topic" he/she removed the grade. But the reply was clearly off topic so I put another on him/her just now. Maybe I should be a mod.
     
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  4. Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi

    Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi Rebel Official

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    And just to prove my point, boom, someone slaps a "disagree" Dooku sticker picture to my post, as well as Merman's post. And someone also gave this thread a one star rating, even though I think it addresses a very important topic.

    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 20, 2017 ---
    Still, I'm sure we would all like to see more green and less yellow in our "fuel tank" bars near our avatars. :)
     
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  5. RoyleRancor

    RoyleRancor Car'a'Carn

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    .....She-Ra > He-Man....BRING IT PUNK

    (duel)
     
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  6. Bosc

    Bosc Force Attuned

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    There are three issues here that I see: negative posts, negative ratings, and differing opinions. And as a prequel fan myself, I'm sensitive to what @Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi is talking about. However, I'm also aware that this street goes both ways and that no side can claim the high ground, so to speak. (See what I did there?)

    I have some thoughts about this, but unfortunately it's super-late and I'm a bit too exhausted to respond to this appropriately. But what I will say is that whenever you see an instance of abuse, you should contact a moderator. We are few and threads are many. We are also not paid by the number of threads we monitor (or at all), and are very keen not to dictate what can or can not be discussed. So when we miss things, tell us; i.e. PM me or any of the others with a blue bar under their name (and even some with a yellow bar).

    What I'll also say is that conversations here have largely remained civil throughout the history of the Cantina. If there is an uptick in argumentative and disruptive posting, then perhaps those of us who have been around longer haven't done a good job in setting a good example. Good discussion threads start with us as individuals, and we need to take responsibility for everything we put out there.

    I wanted to post in order to let everyone know that we've seen this thread and this complaint. I'll try to respond in a more cogent manner tomorrow.
     
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  7. Rogues1138

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    I left the TFN boards because the basher/gusher wars were getting too far. I've noticed that allot of ppl are appearing here form that dastardly board and I'm fearing that it might get heated in here as well but I think the way the Cantina is designed the trolls will jump ship.
     
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    I think the answer may be quite simple and devoid of drama. Stay tuned. ;)
     
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  9. Rieekan

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    Sry didn't reply in the private conversation because I replied in the thread to address the problem.
     
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  10. Bradford Tyllestad

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    Hey! It's me!
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    If I disagree instead of like something you post you will get a Dooku instead of the green rebel badge. Simple is that. You don't need to like it.

    There is absolutely nothing on these boards that requires tighter moderation. The tone is overall fun and friendly, and with a few exceptions the mods do a good job.
     
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  11. Rogues1138

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    I'm gonna skip the whole negative rating thing for awhile just to diffuse whats brewing here. If I disagree I'll just move along... don't want to be that person. walking on eggshells... LOL
     
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  12. LadyMusashi

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    Here is two cents from a staff member.

    There will never be 'policing' on any thread in the Cantina. Since I became a staff member, I learned that this is explicitly what SWNN and Cantina want to avoid: to stop discussions, micromanage users, censor opinions.

    Moderators have that name for a reason. You will often see a mod lock a thread, edit or delete a post until heads cool down and you will see each and every of our moderators delete vulgar, uncivilized language. Hate speech will get you a short walk down the plank. Mods will also often delete ratings if they see a member negatively rating multiple posts in a thread without rhyme or reason.

    If you encounter any of this or any other problem, please, please, use the report button (multiple times if you have to) and the mods who work hard and for free and have their own lives (yes, I know, beside SW, imagine that :D ) will deal with it. And if it doesn't happen AT ONCE, be patient - they or a staff member will deal with it.

    If you have any questions, ask. Someone will respond. But, policing... no, moderating...yes. :)
     
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    DEKKA129 Professional Slinger of Balderdash

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    Lady Musashi, I agree 1000% with that last post of yours. We're here to facilitate discussion, not to dictate how that discussion evolves.

    And of course, that facilitation does involve mitigating situations where somebody feels it necessary to derail discussion with personal attacks, bigotry or blatant rating abuse. Remember folks, it's amazing easy to avoid getting into it with the mods hereabouts... don't act like a [VULGAR, UNCIVILIZED LANGUAGE DELETED.] ;)

    @Rogues1138 - I know exactly what you mean. I was a longtime poster on TF.N many years ago myself, and finally left for good after the mods went on a rampage and basically started trying to purge the JC Forums of prequel "bashers" (which they'd defined in such broad terms that it made it impossible to tell what was going to get you banned, unless you were an absolutely bug-eyed prequel "gusher".)

    Suffice to say, we have tried our best to avoid that problem here in the Cantina. As you say, those who come here from the JC Forums and expect to find the same prequel-centric atmosphere are likely to be rather disappointed. As long as posters are civil to one another and not breaking the rather modest list of forum rules, that's all we ask.
     
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  14. Merman

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    Oh it is brought! Ha Ha!
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