Rey Solo

Consistency in story telling! Why go to all the trouble of explaining Anakin's special origins if someone born normally can be even stronger in the force than Anakin?

 

How many liars does it take to make a Solo ?

Spoiler: ta dum tsshshshh

J J Abrams
Ben/Kylo
Rey
Han
Leia
Snoke
Daisy Ridley
The force itself
Maz (to some extent)
Luke

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The Vader lies/reveal is a bit more understandable in order to protect Luke but why would you hide that from her ???? Love Han and Leia and Ben but who cares ?

Spoiler: this thread

DENIAL

 

There is no Skywalker family story in IX unless Rey is related to Kylo Ren now that Luke is dead and so is Leia due to Fisher's death.

 

Kylo IS the Skywalker.

The whole conflict in this trilogy is based around his choices.

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Why go through all the trouble of introducing midichlorians and then never bringing it up again?

 

An individual Skywalker is not a family.

 

Huh? What do midichlorians have to do with what we are discussing? They still exist even if they are not mentioned, inconsistency in this scenario would be someone saying midichlorians now don't exist.

 

Luke force ghost. Leia Force ghost. Maybe Vader Force ghost. Could all appear.

Kylo Ren though is all that is needed for this to be about the Skywalker family saga.

If you’re trying to say that this is no longer Skywalker related to save face or because of sour grapes, then you’re as misguided on this as you were on Rey’s parentage.

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Also Rey not having a surname is part of the theme of her being a no one - like Finn. She has no name other than the one she makes for herself. Maybe she’ll take Solo or Skywalker at some point in homage to her mentors?

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Anakin’s power hasn’t been fully explained. He may have been created by the Sith, the midichlorians or the Force. Nothing in his creation story said something similar couldn’t happen to someone else outside of the bloodline. Rey was the natural reaction through the force to the awakening of the dark side in kylo Ren. Clearly, she was born 10 years after Ren and thus by this age Ben was being manipulated by Snoke and the dark side began to rise.

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It contradicted your misguided interpretation of the Force vision, more like.

 

The only Skywalker in the PT was Anakin. So...?

 

Shmi Skywalker was in I and II. Luke and Leia were in III.

 

They're obviously building up the sexual tension so that the audience is completely shocked when they reveal that she's his sister. They're playing the high IQ long game, Shaitan.

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Leia and Kylo were in 7 and Luke and Leia and Kylo were in 8.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT

 

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That's not romance unless ya enjoy being treated like garbage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse

 

The midichlorians or the force? The midichlorians are just a physical manifestation of the force.
Nobody said something similar couldn't happen outside of the bloodline.
My point was that if she was created by the force for the sake of consistency she should have an origin similar to Anakin, why does the force need to make and immaculate conception with Shmi to create Anakin and not Rey?

 

I'm talking about Episode IX.

 

Show me where I said it was romantic.

Sexual tension =/= Romance

Empathy =/= Romance

Exactly. Like in Episode 3, Kylo will be the only Skywalker left. It's still the Skywalker Saga.

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I'm just saying that you're expecting wayy too much logical continuity in Star Wars. The lack of continuity in stuff is one of the more quirky things about the franchise.

Besides, they were going for a specific type of characterization for Anakin- that of the Messiah. He's the Jesus figure. Rey is not.

 

1. That’s the Force vision - yes. What’s your point?

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

Depends if you think that is how Anakin was created. I don’t. I think the Sith did it. But even if it was the Force, why would it not go about it differently? Especially after the mess it caused with Anakin.

But to me it sounds like a reaction to what was happening. I don’t think it a coincidence that Rey is the complete opposite to Ren - a no one, scum parents etc

You’re so desperate it’s getting a tad embarrassing.

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And you can rate me trolling as much as you like @MagnarTheGreat, it’s your reputation and opinion that has sufferred.

 

I don't think I expect too much, I know I can't expect continuity in all of canon but at least between the movies.
Rey might not be called a Messiah but so far she has surpassed Anakin's capabilities in every way.
What we have been told so far by Snoke and Kylo which we don't know if true, is that she was created to balance the darkness in Kylo and then that her parents are junk traders from Jakku, imo there is incompatibility between those two statements.

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What do you mean by the Sith? If you are referring to Plagueis novel, Plagueis himself believed Anakin was created by the force, to balance the imbalance created by his dark side rituals.
The mess it caused with Anakin? Yes it was a mess but I don't think we can attribute that to his immaculate conception, if anything Rey has had an even worse childhood than Anakin, at least he had a loving mother.
And to be honest I don't see them as opposites in that sense, it doesn't seem like Ben had a lovely childhood and the movie seems to try to show their similarities in that they both always felt alone.

 

That's exactly why she is the daughter of junkers. She's the MIRROR image of Ben Solo. He was born to powerful parents who loved him but he's convinced that they hated him for his darkness. She was born to paupers who gave her away for drinking money but she was convinced that they loved her still and that they'd come back.
They're two parts of a whole.

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Exactly. They're opposites who intersect.

They both had diametrically opposite childhoods yet Ben was just as much a slave as Rey was- she physically and he, mentally to Snoke. They're both alone because of this.

It is a romance.

Not a healthy one. They're never going to have 2.5 kids and white picket fence but the best romances are tragic. And I'm in it for the pain tbh

 

Snokie-poke literally says "Darkness rises and the Light to meet it" but that's not enough to suggest that the Force imbued Rey with this power independent of her lineage? seriously. Snoke even admits he falsely thought the rising Light would be another Skywalker: Luke.

it's not Luke. it's a nobody from Jakku. and Ren knew that even before Snoke did.

 

Exactly. And that goes a long way toward clarifying Ren's "what girl?" in TFA--which, incidentally, happened after Ren and Snoke felt the awakening.

 

But her "parents" still aren't present, so there is still zero emotional payoff. At least at the time of filming Leia is still alive and so is Luke and Kylo. So she would have still had 3 living relatives.

Luke had 2 father and sister(not revealed until ROTJ)