Sith/Dark Jedi

I think there are a number of rogue Jedi who survived Protocol 66 and realize the failings of the order that allowed this mess to happen...

 

Well, my personal theory is and has been that in the absence of a Sith or Jedi order the Force powerful beings in the galaxy have grown up without any kind of guidance or teachings whatsoever from either side. Remember that the Jedi used to look for younglings powerful to adopt into the order and train. The Sith did so as well. In the void created by The Empire in eradicating all the Jedi and as we will see in Rebels -- the children of the Force as well -- the Force was laid dormant in a way. Well, once the Rebel Alliance defeated the Empire the Force attuned beings were allowed to live and grow and blossom. However, they have no one guiding them. What happens? They have to try to understand why they have these strange abilities and what it is -- they know nothing of the Force for the most part. The oldest of these rogue beings wilol have taught themselves and may not understand the differences between right or wrong or justice vs injustice -- George's theme of moral choices -- and may be traipsing the galaxy using the Force willy-nilly without a sense of right like a sci-fi version of Lord of the Flies. I think we could see all kinds of gray beings that are very morally ambiguous, that could align with say a strong leader who is clearly on the Dark Side. IMO a very compelling story.

 

I'd prefer just a powerful Luke and his apprentice(s) vs a powerful villain and his apprentice(s)

That way force users are something out of the ordinary. I didn't like the Jedi overkill of characters in the prequels and the way Lucas killed off Maul only to replace him with less interesting weaker villains like Grevious and Dooku

 

In the EU not all Dark Jedi were Sith. Exar Kun was not a sith and was clearly a Dark Jedi. I don't think that the films have gone deep enough into explaining the Dark side of the force to have a story of this nature.

 

I agree. However, there are 3 more movies coming in the saga as well as 3 spinoffs and a cartoon that can all add to this history and the Dark Side of the Force storyline.

 

The EU is irrelevant.

 

Not completely. Everyone associated with Star Wars has the opportunity to pick and choose ideas, characters and ships etc... from the EU. It's NOT completely irrelevant.

 

"I was the greatest Dark Lord of the Sith. I am Exar Kun."

 

I think ego's will render this unlikely

 

Never post in a forum while half asleep and holding a crying baby. Let me clarify, Exar Kun was a Jedi, who fell. He was not "trained" as a Sith, not in the same way that Sideous was trained as a Sith and was never a Jedi.

If all the Sith are dead, this creates a problem in light of the allegedly being no sith force spirits. I haven't seen the episode in Clone Wars where this happened. To me there is a difference, one was something, one became something.

However, Vader the other example that comes to mind betrayed the ways to the sith in the end and went back to help his son.

This is not to say Kun would ever have done that. Its to say a couple of things. 1) One who never knew another way is more "pure" than one who left a way of life, but is always aware that he can "repent" somehow. 2) If there are no Sith and there are no Sith force spirits, the possibilities that a character has to learn the Sith ways is made significantly smaller.

By eliminating force spirits for the sith, you are now relegated to holocrons, which have appeared in cannon material, but never appeared in any of the episodes.

 

I'm pretty sure remiel6 wasn't insulting you. He was clearly referring to himself holding a crying baby. That's why he initial post was not clear. His clarification makes perfect sense to me. Maybe you should slow your roll and carefully read what people write

 

ok now... let's all remember that we are friends...

 

Ahh, excuse me. I was holding a crying baby in the early morning while posting incomplete thoughts. I was insulting no one, but myself