SWNN Live! Should Kylo Ren Have Been Redeemed At The End Of The Rise of Skywalker?

If one thing makes me sad, it's how Disney's original plan was the heroes from the OT all die and their son also die as an unredeemed dark sider.
Why were they so nihilistic?

 

This guy has thoughts:

 

I think you might as well ask if Anakin should have been redeemed (somewhat, arguably) in ROTJ. And/or if he should have turned to the dark side at all in the first place.

 

I want to say yes but in the context of how the trilogy developed the choices and arc they went with the protagonist. I cannot say I agree with the redemption. I don't like how Kylo forgave himself through a hallucination. Redeeming him through death was the only direction they could do it. The whole living in exile reminds me of Eichmann and Priebke. I don't like that at all

 

For me, the question was never “Should Ben be redeemed?” but rather “Why can’t I bring myself to care if Ben gets redeemed?”

Anakin was a real hero who cared deeply about the causes he was fighting for, and even though he made a horribly wrong decision, his actions were based on specific reasons. Ben is just a brat who liked to watch the world burn. Ben is, in a sense, unredeemable, because he was never likable in the first place.

I am disappointed that Disney ended the beloved Skywalker family with a unlikable character who was essentially just a second-rate knockoff of Anakin.

 

There is no evidence of this in the movies.
In TPM he's just an innocent child (like virtually all children) caught up in circumstances.

Then later he is purely motivated by trying to impress either Padme or Obi Wan of his prowess as a jedi.

Whatever commitment he had to a cause was swiftly dropped for Padme.

Demented, paranoid and selfish reasons.

Ben is the grand son of a jedi who personally murdered dozens of children in order to obtain power for a man who stroked his ego about how important he was and indulged his petulance about not getting special treatment from the jedi council.

It's interesting that you give Anakin qualities that are just not apparent in his movie depictions, and you denounce the likability of a young Ben that is literally not depicted at all.

Ben Solo's journey to becoming Kylo Ren started with a promise of the destiny that his grandfather was supposedly denied by Luke.