SPOILER Andor Ep. 10 Discussion

We may see him again in the next couple of episodes, but if not, I like that we don’t know what happened to Kino. Leaving it open for his return at some point in the future.

 

Initially I felt a bit cheated - the runtime, the lack of detail in their escape, Kino's inability to lead (or swim), it all seemed rushed. I loved the compromising position Mon is put in, and yes, the collection of TV spots confirmed the mole's identity.

We know nothing about Narkina 5 so I cannot figure out how they get off the planet. That says nothing for the hundreds or thousands who could have escaped. I need to watch it again after I get some sleep.

 

that was hilarious, for the record, I didn't find a problem with the run-time/screen-time, but hey, films are indeed, subjective...

 

A few thoughts-

It did feel short, and I was a bit skeptical that swimming was a good plan. Glad they (at least two of them, at least) made it to a beach, but perhaps the Empire would've benefitted from putting this prison on a planet totally covered by water, or at least further in the ocean?

Regardless, this is how you do a prison escape in Star Wars. Make it matter. Keep the character in there for a while. So often, we get prison breaks when the prisoner is rescued after being in their cell for about 30 seconds of screentime, and the only defenses they have to worry about are inept guards with guns. This feels far superior to any other prison escape we've seen in the series... Leia's from the DSI included.

Man, Luthen's monologue about his sacrifices for the early Rebellion was pretty darn good, and I think Skarsgaard delivered it perfectly. But anyone else find his appearance (both clothing, positioning on screen, and even the location itself) a bit reminiscent of Vader at Bespin?

 

It felt far shorter than it even was... Great buildup for the final two. I'm glad the Supervisor Young issue is in the clear, it felt very spoiler-ish even though it was in the trailer. Skarsgård is amazing! I've gotta rewatch to soak it all in since I watched it at 3am.

 

Ep. 10 -- One Way Out (10/10)
Short, sharp, sweet, dramatic, and inspiring.
And the scene between Lonni and Luthan at the end? Magical… Magnificent… Superb…

IMHO, that would've been entirely superfluous. 5 minutes of running around and fighting and stuff? No thank you



To echo @cawatrooper, this is the best prison escape we've had in Star Wars, and we have had a few.

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True. Stellan is a Scandinavian treasure, one of the greats who've been around for so long and played in so many small and large things up here. We love him so He's one of several very good Swedish actors, and of the Nordic countries, the Swedes definitely have the best ones, at least among the well-known big-shots ('cause most great ones never get to make it big for some reason). But yeah, Stellan is great. Can't wait to see him in Dune Part 2 next November, too <3

 

I looked at the length of the episode and was disappointed to see it wasn't 60 minutes or more. Then, as MBWilson and others have mentioned, it felt super-short -- which means it was damn good.

I've always enjoyed Skarsgaard's work but he's been magnificent in this role.

Given the set-up, I could see the world Gilroy built becoming a six or seven season "Game of Thrones"-ish look at the beginnings of the rebellion. But my understanding is that the series was written as a two-season story arc. But let me throw out another option: a spin-off series entitled, "Axis."

 

As a prison guard/jail guard, I like the term Correction Officer much better. this episode resonated with me the most. One guard watching 50 to 90 inmates, wondering will they try? So you must gain their respect, everyday I walk through those prison bars and gates wondering will this be the day? so many Kino Loys, or rather Cassian Andors, amongst the inmate population (BIG-HOMIES they are called in reality), when will they rise? Tony Gilroy is a master storyteller, I was at the edge of my seat at 3am this morning... the runtime was perfect.

 

I'd actually be down for that.

I've also heard that S2 will lead directly into Rogue One (which obviously won't leave any room for Cassian afterward), but a show focusing on Coruscant could be fascinating.

Remember, if we follow that timeline, we'd see Coruscant's perspective on the Battle of Scarif, the destruction of the first Death Star, and possibly beyond all through the Galactic Civil War... quite likely even giving us new battle scenes all across the galaxy.

I think Cassian's presence has been good so far, but I think this type of Star Wars content could definitely outlive him through R1.

 

I loved the development with Mon’s daughter. So THAT’S why we were establishing the domestic discontent. Mon’s own arranged marriage. Her strained relationship with her husband and the daughter who favors him. She’s being forced to choose between loyalty to the Rebellion - subjecting her own daughter to that same loss of personal choice - and loyalty to her daughter. A daughter who will likely villainize her mother further for it. Chef’s kiss.

I also loved the visual metaphor of that aerial shot above the prison. Shaping the facility like the Imperial logo and then showing the prisoners as tiny specs desperately scrambling from it for their freedom. Gorgeous.

I liked the touch of having Kino’s inspirational words being taken directly from Cassian just like Jyn’s line in R1, “rebellions are built on hope.” That was fun.

 

To me the length of the episode was cool and maybe mostly because of how well made the Andor was so far.
No useless shots in this series and everything serves purpose.
Only thing I was missing was a reaction from Empire to the prison breakout, as that must be something unprecedented for them,
same as the small scale heist on Aldhani, but well, we won't have a cliffhanger otherwise.

Just wow, I really love the series a lot for what it is. And one of the few shows in past years, that really handles cliffhangers so well!
Usually, you can feel episode ending minutes from it actually ending, be it music gradation creating tension before the credits roll, but here it creates the sense of getting conlusion next week and really wanting more!

On the series itself, the plan was crazy and full of luck and coincidence and even tho, I felt more stress for the heroes in Episode 6, these world and tension building three episode arcs really pay off in the end. Sure, there is ton of great shows out there, but this show is one of the best I have seen and not just because of Star Wars logo at the beginning.

We knew before that Mon Mothma definitely isn't the happiest person in the galaxy and with a tough volunteering job of leading rebel alliance, but man, I really feel for her, as usually, in other media and a movie, she is this character with saint and majestic aura. But here we see her as a real tragic person.
And the contrast of her versus Luthen and his speech on what he has lost. These people are fighting for the same cause, but world apart.
Luthen basically admitting, that he is no better than the Empire and their methods.

Bix surprised me with being alive and well after the horror she lived through... I am looking forward to seeing the finale starting next week!
I wonder what Empire's response to the escape will be and how will Cassian get out of that planet.
I can see him clashing with Luthen along the way.

I really love the format. I was expeting it to be more episodic format, with the three arc being intro and then Cassian just doing some small tasks for Luthen and some dirty jobs for the proto alliance, but this is one of the rare instances where the creators were telling the truth and not overhyping the show with empty promises like with Boba Fett. We really see a huge story arc of Cassian playing out and if they continue like this into Season 2 and that will mesh into the Rogue One movie, it has potential to be my most favorite Disney era Star Wars series!

 

Thanks to the community, reading several post and watching Andor episode 10 once again was so much more enticing.

Thank you so much for those that contributed,

Rogues1138
1030th Captain with PRIDE

PS: no lightsabers, no Aliens, just good storytelling...
we need more Gilroy!!!

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I am damned for what I do...

so true... Star Wars has returned.. EPIC

 

Weird how you keep saying he’s dead when we never saw him die and we don’t know what happens to him.

 

Pretty much my thoughts. No body, no death. Andy Serkis doesn't write this show.

 

With that many fellow inmates in the water, he would have been helped to shore no problem. we just didn't get to see that part of the story.