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Which Character Should Young Boys Aspire to in Force Awakens

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by AllHailVader, Nov 13, 2015.

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    This.
    Most men hate Star Wars and Science Fiction.

    Every person is different, both males or females.
    For example, my father absolutely hated Sci-fi and Fantasy movies or series.
     
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    I don't know ANY of these MOST men that dislike or hate STAR WARS or SCIFI

    I must be hanging with the least instead of the MOST crowd.
     
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    People are usually hanging out with people with witch they share the same interests.
    I know alot of people who absolutely hate Sci-fi and everything that is not based on realism.
     
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    I think they did a consensus on those that are most looking forward to this film and it's men from 25-35 or something, can't remember the specific age group.

    Star Wars is not like Rambo or Commando, but I think Lucas said he wanted to make something to appeal to young boys. Spaceships, lightsabers, action...check.

    And you would be very surprised as to the cult following Predator, Commando and Rambo 2 have, as those films are watched TIME AND TIME again by those groups.

    It's also the wrong notion to have that if a film appeals primarily to one gender, that it's hollow because it doesn't appeal to both sexes.

    I must be living in some weird planet because from all the way in school to now, most guys I know are either into sci-fi or action or both. I have never met a guy who isn't into either raw violent action movies or sci-fi.

    With women and star wars; I have not met one woman who has been passionate about Star Wars. Some casual fans and a others who think it's stupid because of how unrealistic it is. When you listen to podcasts, there is at most one woman among three other guys. So there are SOME women really into star wars, but it's something that is passionately followed by men primarily. Which is a fact.
     
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    I just saw a statistic on Jedi Council last night that said the average/median Star Wars fan is the 34 year old male.
     
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    Sorry for the dislike, it was accident :) All changed now!!!
     
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    Makes sense. That's around the same age as two super passionate Star Wars fans that I know.


    But I think this myth that women as a whole love Star Wars just as much as men should be dispelled.

    Of course there are SOME that do, but as that statistic and many others show, it's mostly dudes like us who crave any little bit of extra information.
     
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    My 3 year old son aspires to become a Jedi. Period. So do I, but that's besides the point. He does choose the boys mostly... Finn, Kanan, Ezra, but he knows and loves Rey just as much. Sabine and Hera too.

    My 6 year old daughter? Rey all day.
     
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    Does your boy have a favorite character yet from the new film?
     
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    Did it ever occur to you that some people posting in this thread might not even be dudes?
     
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    I think the myth is that conventions, podcasts, and forums like this are indicative of fandom as a whole. I've used this example before, but I'll bring it up here again.

    My wife is a die hard star wars fan. Has been all her life. But she'd rather pull out her own fingernails then spend time in a forum like this as she doesn't like the combative nature of the discourse. She can't be bother with trolling and flame wars. She thinks its all silly and has no patience for it. Does it make her less of a fan because she isn't visible within this very limited community of superfans?

    And I would guess there are a great many like her. I have nothing but admiration for the ladies of our board, who have the pateience to wade through all the testosterone-fueled BS that comes with a geek fan community. So, no I don't think Star Wars skews that strongly towards males. Maybe slightly, but not strongly. But I do think superfan communities like this one skew strongly male because of their manner of the conversation, and the "no girls allowed" mentality of many people within them (that one's not directed at you, but at other people I've come across.)
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    I could be wrong, but that sounds like the data off pre-sales day. That the average movie theater pre-sales from the first day was a 34 year old white male. That was a big deal story a few weeks back, because people were using it to spell the end of Star Wars and how it was going to die out with this generation of geeks. But I think it says more about who felt a need to rush for pre-sales than it does about star wars fans in general.
     
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    I don't think there is such a myth, and even if there was, I don't know why it should be dispelled. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. The fact is that there's no way to verify whether it's true, and there really isn't any harm in believing either way.

    What is true is that the world is more inclusive than it used to be. As a kid just 30 years ago in the United States, I didn't complete a week at school without hearing the most odious racial and sexual slurs you could imagine (not to mention being physically assaulted by racist a-holes...). My kids are fortunate that they will grow up in a (marginally) better world than that.

    As I see it, one small price we have to pay as a society is that we are mindful about the way we talk to each other, try to avoid extreme views, and maybe just let go of our judgement of others' life choices once in awhile, even when we find them strange or unusual. Sucks to feel like you're walking on eggshells sometimes, but better than the alternative IMHO.

    I don't think there's any reason one should feel "left out" in this new world, quite the opposite in fact.

    I'm cool with all you "real men don't wear pink" folks, I just disagree, and I think my wife might too! :)
     
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    I think you are right, now that I think about it. Seems like that was the data for the presales.
     
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    Whether you're 7 or 700 years old, you can dress up as anything and anyone in the Star Wars universe. It's 2015. Boys can dress up as Rey, Leia, Phasma or even Threepio if they want. By the same token girls can be Finn, Poe, Kylo, whomever! The age and gender of a character does NOT dictate who can or cannot aspire to be like said characters. We don't love these fantastical creatures, humans, droids, and aliens for their specific heights, weights, or genders. We love them for what they represent. The small town kid who makes good. The scoundrel with a heart of gold. The royal heir who's handy with a blaster and takes guff from no one. You get the idea.

    TL;DR Star Wars characters are for everyone. And bullies shouldn't keep anyone from expressing themselves!

    P.S. The best Captain Phasma cosplayer at NYCC was a very chill dude.

    P.P.S. I am dressed as Elsa from Frozen right now, and everyone at the FSW offices is okay with it.
     
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    Jimmy Kimmel dressed up as Leia to interview hot dog Harrison Ford. Like who gives a blast.

    Might as well tell people they can't cosplay outside of their own ethnicity as well.

    The people that supported Barack Obama for racial solidarity reasons thinking they have to vote for Ben Carson for the same reason. This type of thinking is gross and destructive.
     
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    Jar Jar....


    I'd go with Luke or Finn!
     
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    Pictures or it didn't happen. :)
     
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    Your use of formal language in place of the more common and colloquial PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN tells me you will likely spam my photos on the dark web and/or your local bowling alley men's room.
     
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    I was actually going to wallpaper my bedroom with it. Weird or genius? The line blurs sometimes.
     
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    Just when I think I've met "the one" he casually announces that he still lives at home with his parents.
     
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