7 things you'd change about the prequel trilogy

Think of it this way: If terrorists bombed Washington DC, but the President got out alive, then it could have been worse.

Leia is a rebellion leader, and a significant one. And concidering the infancy of the rebellion at this point, losing Leia would be a conciderable blow.

I know what you are saying, but this is how I justify it.

 

What if it was purely Yoda's agenda that set the rule about children being too old to be trained as Jedi? What if Yoda's goal was to begin training Force Sensitives at a young enough age that their natural emotions could be brainwashed out of them? Yoda was interested in creating pure light side Jedi with zen-like emotional control. Perhaps sometime in the distant past, the Jedi role as peacekeepers and policemen was in doubt - ripped from today's headlines! - and the pure light training and defensive combat only policy were meant to avoid the smallest whiff of impropriety, brutality or abuse of power on the part of the Order. It isn't that Jedi Force skills take so long to master, but the emotional control required to fulfill the Jedi role as it had evolved in society had to begin at a very young age. This policy created perfect peacekeepers but lousy warriors, as the easy defeat of the Jedi via order 66 demonstrated. It was precisely Vader's darkness that was to bring the Force into balance, via its impact on the battle with Palpatine and via its impact on Luke, who would have to rewrite all the rules for training future Jedi.

 

Your right. The line was just worded poorly. If a second line with sympathy about Alderaan would have made the scene feel more real. In Star Wars characters don't really grief unless your name is Anakin Skywalker and turn to the dark side or Padme and die of a broken heart.

I think this would make more sense if Lucas had kept the more quasi-religious nature of the Jedi intact in the prequels. But in the one AOTC scene we get with kid Jedi. We see they are already training in lightsabers around same age as they would be learning to read and write. If Jedi were living in a monastry like enironment where everyone was quietly meditating the majority of the time then I can buy it. But that would be to boring in a cinematic space adventure, even it made more sense.

 

I am not so much interested in my theory for what we saw in the prequels, Eric, but for how it affected the outcome of the OT and also how it will affect Luke's future.

 

Yeah, hopefully TFA can play with the idea of the flawed Jedi. It would be an interesting concept to work with storywise.

 

I just rewatched the scene with Anakin and the younglings. I know George Lucas actually filmed Anakin killing the tots, but he decided against including it in the film. That footage has never come to light, afaik. The video footage Yoda and Obiwan watch later shows Anakin's carnage in the main hall of the temple, not in the room with the younglings. They discuss how not even the younglings were spared, and that a padawan who looks at least 11 or 12 was killed with a lightsaber. However, nothing is to stop a future flashback from revealing that while Anakin killed armed youngling padawans who attacked him as they defended the temple, in the chamber with the unarmed toddlers, he ignited his lightsaber only to turn on his heel and use it to seal the door to protect the defenseless children from the attack. Later, when he finds the younglings dead anyway, he exacts vengeance on the perpetrators.

 

I think the prequel did that already, but I welcome your idea.

 

I find it to be done so perfectly that anything else would pale in comparison.

It's funny I was listening to a guy who was talking about working with younger co-workers and they talked about Star Wars. Among there faves" Jar Jar and when he mentioned Han Solo they said "Who?"

Again brilliantly done. Wouldn't change a thing.

It's not Yoda's story. Every single time I saw the movies people went wild when Yoda went into action.

Each SINGLE prequel has more practical effects than the ENTIRE OT combined. What more do you want? I highly doubt TFA will have as many practical effects as any ONE of the PT.

Well if that is the worst thing then you really don't have much to complain about do you? Lucas was telling people they were in the earlier stories in the 70's so what was forced?

Historical? Hardly. Footnote at best. Jango was cloned not Boba so what are you talking about exactly? Jango rocked and had to be taken down by Mace Windu while Boba Fett. Well let's face it his ending was embarrassing to say the least!

 

I would have Darth Maul return with metallic legs to get revenge. I personally really liked this character and think we didn't see enough of him.

 

He does return, in TCW

 

POOR DIALOGUE tightened up a lot
JAR JAR practica0,l not digital
CASINO CANTINA needs a little music
CAMINO not so clean an beautiful
OBI-WAN not even attempting to help Anakin when he is already burnt to crisp) and not just leaving him after calling him a brother.
DARTH MAUL not dying in TPM
ANAKIN's just random pushing of button in the Naboo fighter.

 

Pretty generic list.
1. Save Darth Maul
2. No Trade Dispute
3. No Jar Jar
4. Have a Han Solo type character could be solider or smuggler just something in the vein.
5. Cast a mid twenties Anakin in Episode 1 have him be a heroic pilot for the Republic or something.
6. Make the Jedi interesting.
7. No George Lucas screenplay. Take his awesome story ideas.

 

1. No Jedi attachment/marriage/family ban. It was clearly only there for the sake of a forbidden romance.
2. More screentime of Anakin and Palpatine together.
3. More screentime of Anakin and Obi-Wan together.
4. Integrate Maul into the plot better.
5. Combine Maul and Grevious.
6. No prophecy.
7. Explain who the Sith are and how they went extinct.

 

I know, but I was talking about the movies.

 

"Remove all the cringe" sums it up pretty nicely.
Seriously, was there anyone in the audience that didn't snort when Obi-Wan said, "Only Sith deal in absolutes"? Hahaha! That has got to be the worst line in history (well, no - there's even worse to be found in the very same movie)- or when he said, "Don't worry, Sith are our specialty"? Why didn't anyone give George the thumbs down?
There are so many dumb lines in the prequel trilogy that it became a drinking game for a while for a few of us. Every time you cringe, take a shot. We were roaring drunk (and had to skip Attack of the Clones for fear of alcohol poisoning).

Anyway, I know I've already replied to this post, but I have no idea what I wrote but right now, number one for me would be "Change the dialogue". And by change the dialogue I mean rewrite it. Mmmm now that I'm thinking on it, maybe I should just redub the prequels for myself.
Though it will be hard to let go of such brilliance as the darkest force in the galaxy calling one of his minions for "slime", or the most badass Jedi in the galaxy's profound retort to Count Dooku, "This party's over."

Right I'll show myself out. But bwahahaha the prequel dialogue

 

Sorry if I repeat anything. There's plenty I would change, from midi-chlorians to Jar Jar. But instead of saying things I would CHANGE. I'll list the stuff that I always imagined before the movies came out. Stuff I wanted to see.

1) Alderaan
Alderaan was always, in my mind ,a major player. Seemingly "loyal" to the Empire with underground ties to the Rebel Alliance. It would have been really cool to see what it was like before it was destroyed. It would have made the destruction even more personal.

2) Corellia
Now, I'm not saying I wanted to see young Han Solo. I like not knowing anything about him before the Cantina. But the Corellian lifestyle and politics would have been a little interesting. A bunch of people that make awesome ships, and not giving two craps about the Republic OR the Empire. Just a bunch of cocky nerfherders all nerfherding together. ha ha

3) More of Anakin's Superior Piloting Skill
Sure we got the podrace, a chase through Coruscant and spinning around making two missiles hit eachother. But that all seemed like stuff any Jedi could have done. I mean Obi-Wan did pretty okay in the asteroid field against Jango. I didn't see anything that mad Anakin so special. Anakin was being heralded as the greatest pilot ever, but I just didn't see it.

4) Clone Wars
Sure we got the very beginning and the very end, (and you could argue the tv show). But I imagined it so much differently as a kid. Something off, and creepy about them. I would have loved to see more of that and not with a bunch of CG people.

5) Boba Fett and the Mandalorians
Sure we got the clone story. But honestly? It was kinda lame. I wanted to know why he was the best Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy. What gave him that fame? And I would LOVE to know about the Mandalorians as far as "canon" goes. We get some great stuff in books and video games, but to see it on screen would be great! Even if hunting wookies for sport was part of it. (Don't get me wrong, I love wookies)

6) Building a Lightsaber
It's always talked about but never shown. How incredibly complex it is. Why is it so dangerous to build one? Let's see!

7) Jedi Trials
I don't need the Force explained to me. I love having it shrouded in mystery. It seems more magical and fantastical, than a simple bacteria that you'd need an exorcist for if you didn't want the Force. But seeing Jedi testing, and the Trials would be cool. I think there's combat trials, trials of the Force, mind, etc. That would be cool.

That's MY list of stuff I wanted to see. I don't think anyone would want to read my list of stuff I'd want to change because it would be too long.

 

Nice list and break down, some good thoughts there buddy

 

Thanks for the kind words! lol

 

This is just a quickie
I would change :-
1. All of the things that contradicts what was setup in the original trilogy
2. The vast amount of CG (not good CG) that makes most of it look really fake.
3. The political talk is too much. It's just so boring.
4. All of the unnecessary and not very good characters ie Jar Jar (obviously), Grevious, little boy Anakin ect ect.
5. The often terrible dialogue (there are exceptions granted).
6. The transformation from Anakin to Vader (too sudden and the killing of children is a step too far).
7. The general story told through the whole trilogy needs to be drastically altered so Anakin starts at about 16/17 years old. The romance between him and Padme is more believable and interesting, the friendship between Anakin and Obi wan is more obvious, have Darth Maul in it for at least two of the movies, and more realistic and believable transformation from Anakin to Vader so it happens in the first half of ROTS and in the second half is Vader in full costume doing what Vader does best.